Re: problem with domain and sub-domain configuration

2010-05-04 Thread fddi
the only working solution for me was to configure inside ns.cr.test.com 
a slave zone
for domain test.com. I wanted to avoid this but it is the only working 
solution


thanks


Barry Margolin wrote:

In article mailman.1343.1272903565.21153.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Gregory Hicks ghi...@hicks-net.net wrote:

  

Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 17:37:46 +0200
From: fddi f...@gmx.it
To: Bind Users Mailing List bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: problem with domain and sub-domain configuration
X-FuHaFi: 0.68005



Hello I have one domain

test.com with namserver ns.test.com (10.0.0.1)

and a subdomain

cr.test.com with nameserver ns.cr.test.com (10.1.0.1)


my problem is that if I update hostnames inside test.com zone
updates are not seen by cr.test.com nameserver
  
Do you update the serial number in the zone file before you save the 
file?  

What you describe seems indicative of no update.  The serial must be 
bumped once per update.  This indicates that the zone has been changed 
and a reload is necessary.  After you save the zone file, execute a 
rndc reload zone to make named reload the zone.



The serial number is only used by slave servers, not forwarding servers.

  

Hope this helps.



they are seen if I restart named on cr.test.com


actually on ns.cr.test.com I have the following directive

zone test.com IN {
type forward;
forward only;
forwarders { 10.0.0.1; };
};

but when I update the father zone test.com for example I add an ip 
  

address,

the update is not seen by cr.test.com nameserver and I have to restart 
named and after that
it works. So that clients using cr.test.com nameserver cannot see 
updates to test.com domain ip addresses.


I do not know how to fix this problem unless I configure cr.test.com 
  
to 


be slave of test.com
but i did not want to do so.
  


How long do you have $TTL and the negative cache TTL in the SOA record 
set to?  10.1.0.1 will cache the responses it gets, so you may need to 
wait this long for it to pick up changes that you make.


  

any hints ?

thank you

Rick

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Re: problem with domain and sub-domain configuration

2010-05-03 Thread Gregory Hicks

 Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 17:37:46 +0200
 From: fddi f...@gmx.it
 To: Bind Users Mailing List bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Subject: problem with domain and sub-domain configuration
 X-FuHaFi: 0.68005
 
 
 
 Hello I have one domain
 
 test.com with namserver ns.test.com (10.0.0.1)
 
 and a subdomain
 
 cr.test.com with nameserver ns.cr.test.com (10.1.0.1)
 
 
 my problem is that if I update hostnames inside test.com zone
 updates are not seen by cr.test.com nameserver

Do you update the serial number in the zone file before you save the 
file?  

What you describe seems indicative of no update.  The serial must be 
bumped once per update.  This indicates that the zone has been changed 
and a reload is necessary.  After you save the zone file, execute a 
rndc reload zone to make named reload the zone.

Hope this helps.

 
 they are seen if I restart named on cr.test.com
 
 
 actually on ns.cr.test.com I have the following directive
 
 zone test.com IN {
 type forward;
 forward only;
 forwarders { 10.0.0.1; };
 };
 
 but when I update the father zone test.com for example I add an ip 
address,
 the update is not seen by cr.test.com nameserver and I have to restart 
 named and after that
 it works. So that clients using cr.test.com nameserver cannot see 
 updates to test.com domain ip addresses.
 
 I do not know how to fix this problem unless I configure cr.test.com 
to 
 be slave of test.com
 but i did not want to do so.
 
 any hints ?
 
 thank you
 
 Rick
 
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Re: problem with domain and sub-domain configuration

2010-05-03 Thread f...@gmx.it


Yes I do update the serial,
in fact I wrote to the list because I cannot find an explanation...

thanks

Rick

Gregory Hicks wrote:

Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 17:37:46 +0200
From: fddi f...@gmx.it
To: Bind Users Mailing List bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: problem with domain and sub-domain configuration
X-FuHaFi: 0.68005



Hello I have one domain

test.com with namserver ns.test.com (10.0.0.1)

and a subdomain

cr.test.com with nameserver ns.cr.test.com (10.1.0.1)


my problem is that if I update hostnames inside test.com zone
updates are not seen by cr.test.com nameserver



Do you update the serial number in the zone file before you save the 
file?  

What you describe seems indicative of no update.  The serial must be 
bumped once per update.  This indicates that the zone has been changed 
and a reload is necessary.  After you save the zone file, execute a 
rndc reload zone to make named reload the zone.


Hope this helps.

  

they are seen if I restart named on cr.test.com


actually on ns.cr.test.com I have the following directive

zone test.com IN {
type forward;
forward only;
forwarders { 10.0.0.1; };
};

but when I update the father zone test.com for example I add an ip 


address,
  
the update is not seen by cr.test.com nameserver and I have to restart 
named and after that
it works. So that clients using cr.test.com nameserver cannot see 
updates to test.com domain ip addresses.


I do not know how to fix this problem unless I configure cr.test.com 

to 
  

be slave of test.com
but i did not want to do so.

any hints ?

thank you

Rick

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Re: problem with domain and sub-domain configuration

2010-05-03 Thread Doug Barton
On 05/03/10 08:37, fddi wrote:
 
 
 Hello I have one domain
 
 test.com with namserver ns.test.com (10.0.0.1)
 
 and a subdomain
 
 cr.test.com with nameserver ns.cr.test.com (10.1.0.1)
 
 
 my problem is that if I update hostnames inside test.com zone
 updates are not seen by cr.test.com nameserver
 
 they are seen if I restart named on cr.test.com
 
 
 actually on ns.cr.test.com I have the following directive
 
 zone test.com IN {
type forward;

You're probably better off using a stub zone here.

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Re: problem with domain and sub-domain configuration

2010-05-03 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mailman.1343.1272903565.21153.bind-us...@lists.isc.org,
 Gregory Hicks ghi...@hicks-net.net wrote:

  Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 17:37:46 +0200
  From: fddi f...@gmx.it
  To: Bind Users Mailing List bind-users@lists.isc.org
  Subject: problem with domain and sub-domain configuration
  X-FuHaFi: 0.68005
  
  
  
  Hello I have one domain
  
  test.com with namserver ns.test.com (10.0.0.1)
  
  and a subdomain
  
  cr.test.com with nameserver ns.cr.test.com (10.1.0.1)
  
  
  my problem is that if I update hostnames inside test.com zone
  updates are not seen by cr.test.com nameserver
 
 Do you update the serial number in the zone file before you save the 
 file?  
 
 What you describe seems indicative of no update.  The serial must be 
 bumped once per update.  This indicates that the zone has been changed 
 and a reload is necessary.  After you save the zone file, execute a 
 rndc reload zone to make named reload the zone.

The serial number is only used by slave servers, not forwarding servers.

 Hope this helps.
 
  
  they are seen if I restart named on cr.test.com
  
  
  actually on ns.cr.test.com I have the following directive
  
  zone test.com IN {
  type forward;
  forward only;
  forwarders { 10.0.0.1; };
  };
  
  but when I update the father zone test.com for example I add an ip 
 address,
  the update is not seen by cr.test.com nameserver and I have to restart 
  named and after that
  it works. So that clients using cr.test.com nameserver cannot see 
  updates to test.com domain ip addresses.
  
  I do not know how to fix this problem unless I configure cr.test.com 
 to 
  be slave of test.com
  but i did not want to do so.

How long do you have $TTL and the negative cache TTL in the SOA record 
set to?  10.1.0.1 will cache the responses it gets, so you may need to 
wait this long for it to pick up changes that you make.

  
  any hints ?
  
  thank you
  
  Rick
  
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 stand ready to do violence on their behalf -- George Orwell
 
 The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.  -- Thomas Jefferson
 
 The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they
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