Re: [bitcoin-dev] RE : Visualizations of Votes

2015-08-25 Thread Christian Decker via bitcoin-dev
Yes, the two dimensions are orthogonal: BIP 100 support and actual size voting. However there seem to be a few pools which simply vote to support BIP100, without specifying a desired block size [1], hence I started tracking both on the same chart, maybe I'll split them into different charts to

[bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap [BIP 1xx - Draft]

2015-08-25 Thread Upal Chakraborty via bitcoin-dev
Github: https://github.com/UpalChakraborty/bips/blob/master/BIP-DynamicMaxBlockSize.mediawiki pre BIP: 1xx Title: Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap Author: Upal Chakraborty bitc...@upalc.com Status: Draft Type: Standards Track Created: 2015-08-24 /pre ==Abstract==

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap [BIP 1xx - Draft]

2015-08-25 Thread Chun Wang via bitcoin-dev
Proposal 1 looks good, but tx fee collected can be manipulated by miners. I like the idea next block collect the tx fee from previous block. On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Upal Chakraborty via bitcoin-dev bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org wrote: Github:

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP-draft] CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY - An opcode for relative locktime

2015-08-25 Thread Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev
This BIP has been assigned BIP112 by the BIP repository maintainer. I have updated the pull request accordingly. Regarding the suggestion to cannibalise version, by your own disadvantage list, we would lose fine grained control over txins which neuters the usefulness considerably. Also using

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP-draft] CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY - An opcode for relative locktime

2015-08-25 Thread Mark Friedenbach via bitcoin-dev
To follow up on this, let's say that you want to be able to have up to 1 year relative lock-times. This choice is somewhat arbitrary and what I would like some input on, but I'll come back to this point. * 1 bit is necessary to enable/disable relative lock-time. * 1 bit is necessary to

Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP-draft] CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY - An opcode for relative locktime

2015-08-25 Thread Tier Nolan via bitcoin-dev
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Mark Friedenbach via bitcoin-dev bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org wrote: Assuming a maximum of 1-year relative lock-times. But what is an appropriate maximum to choose? The use cases I have considered have only had lock times on the order of a few days

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap [BIP 1xx - Draft]

2015-08-25 Thread Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 04:26:23PM -0400, Matt Whitlock wrote: On Tuesday, 25 August 2015, at 1:16 pm, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote: What would you think of an approach like John Dillon's proposal to explicitly give the economic majority of coin holders a vote for the max blocksize?

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap [BIP 1xx - Draft]

2015-08-25 Thread Matt Whitlock via bitcoin-dev
On Tuesday, 25 August 2015, at 1:16 pm, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote: What would you think of an approach like John Dillon's proposal to explicitly give the economic majority of coin holders a vote for the max blocksize? Miners could still vote BIP100 style for what max they were willing

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap [BIP 1xx - Draft]

2015-08-25 Thread Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 05:44:46AM +0800, Chun Wang wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Simon Liu via bitcoin-dev bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org wrote: I don't think this would work. If the rule is that one user can only have one vote, how do you prevent a user running

[bitcoin-dev] BIP/Motivation and deployment of consensus rule changes ([soft/hard]forks)

2015-08-25 Thread Andy Chase via bitcoin-dev
As I understand Github is not to be used for the high-level discussion of a draft BIP so I will post my thoughts here (is this specified somewhere? Can we specify this in BIP-0001?). - I have some concerns about the structure and the wording of this proposal. I think both the structure and

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap [BIP 1xx - Draft]

2015-08-25 Thread Matt Whitlock via bitcoin-dev
On Tuesday, 25 August 2015, at 1:37 pm, Peter Todd wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 04:26:23PM -0400, Matt Whitlock wrote: On Tuesday, 25 August 2015, at 1:16 pm, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote: What would you think of an approach like John Dillon's proposal to explicitly give the

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap [BIP 1xx - Draft]

2015-08-25 Thread Eric Voskuil via bitcoin-dev
just as in democracy in general One should be clear that Bitcoin is by no possible measure a democracy. The proposed vote is on what goes into a particular github repository. The outcome is ultimately controlled by those with control of that repository. Bitcoin is an anarchy by design. People

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap [BIP 1xx - Draft]

2015-08-25 Thread Chun Wang via bitcoin-dev
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Simon Liu via bitcoin-dev bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org wrote: I don't think this would work. If the rule is that one user can only have one vote, how do you prevent a user running multiple nodes? The vote is not counted by nodes, but bitcoin amount,

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap [BIP 1xx - Draft]

2015-08-25 Thread Simon Liu via bitcoin-dev
I don't think this would work. If the rule is that one user can only have one vote, how do you prevent a user running multiple nodes? Also, how do you verify that a node is indeed a fully validating node with its own copy of the blockchain? On 08/25/2015 01:37 PM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev