Re: [bitcoin-dev] Card Shuffle To Bitcoin Seed

2019-02-04 Thread Devrandom via bitcoin-dev
I would suggest 50+ 6-sided dice rolls, giving about 128 bits of entropy. Compared to a shuffle, it's easier to be sure that you got the right amount of entropy, even if the dice are somewhat biased. On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 2:33 PM James MacWhyte via bitcoin-dev <

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Interrogating a BIP157 server, BIP158 change proposal

2019-02-04 Thread Olaoluwa Osuntokun via bitcoin-dev
Hi Tamas, This is how the filter worked before the switch over to optimize for a filter containing the minimal items needed for a regular wallet to function. When this was proposed, I had already implemented the entire proposal from wallet to full-node. At that point, we all more or less decided

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Card Shuffle To Bitcoin Seed

2019-02-04 Thread James MacWhyte via bitcoin-dev
James On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 10:27 AM Ryan Havar via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > Conveniently a shuffled deck of cards also can serve as a physical backup > which is easy to hide in plain sight with great plausible deniability. > To make sure someone doesn't

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Interrogating a BIP157 server, BIP158 change proposal

2019-02-04 Thread Tamas Blummer via bitcoin-dev
I participated in that discussion in 2018, but have not had the insight gathered by now though writing both client and server implementation of BIP157/158 Pieter Wuille considered the design choice I am now suggesting here as alternative (a) in:

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Interrogating a BIP157 server, BIP158 change proposal

2019-02-04 Thread Jim Posen via bitcoin-dev
Please see the thread "BIP 158 Flexibility and Filter Size" from 2018 regarding the decision to remove outpoints from the filter [1]. Thanks for bringing this up though, because more discussion is needed on the client protocol given that clients cannot reliably determine the integrity of a block

[bitcoin-dev] Interrogating a BIP157 server, BIP158 change proposal

2019-02-04 Thread Tamas Blummer via bitcoin-dev
TLDR: a change to BIP158 would allow decision on which filter chain is correct at lower bandwith use Assume there is a BIP157 client that learned a filter header chain earlier and is now offered an alternate reality by a newly connected BIP157 server. The client notices the alternate reality

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Card Shuffle To Bitcoin Seed

2019-02-04 Thread Adam Ficsor via bitcoin-dev
Unlike mouse movement it works in a CLI software, which is great. However, isn't there something else you can use instead of cards? Something with invariant culture and maybe more common. On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 7:27 PM Ryan Havar via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >