Re: [bitcoin-dev] On the security of softforks

2015-12-20 Thread Rusty Russell via bitcoin-dev
Jonathan Toomim via bitcoin-dev writes: > On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev > wrote: > >> 1) The risk of an old full node wallet accepting a transaction that is >> invalid to the new rules.

Re: [bitcoin-dev] On the security of softforks

2015-12-20 Thread jl2012 via bitcoin-dev
Rusty Russell via bitcoin-dev 於 2015-12-19 23:14 寫到: Jonathan Toomim via bitcoin-dev writes: On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev wrote: 1) The risk of an old full node wallet accepting a

Re: [bitcoin-dev] On the security of softforks

2015-12-19 Thread Bryan Bishop via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 6:18 AM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > Anyway, we should write this up as a BIP - there's been a tremendous > amount of misinformation, even flat out lies, floating around on this > subject. > Er, this sounds like something

Re: [bitcoin-dev] On the security of softforks

2015-12-17 Thread Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev
To me it's getting clearer and clearer that th frintier between softforks and hardforks it's softer than we thought. Aoftforks should start having a minimum median time deplayment day (be it height or median time, I don't care, just not header.nTime). TYDGFHdfthfg64565$%^$ On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at

Re: [bitcoin-dev] On the security of softforks

2015-12-17 Thread Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev
out rule changes. - Eric -- Original Message -- From: "Jonathan Toomim via bitcoin-dev" <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> To: "Pieter Wuille" <pieter.wui...@gmail.com> Cc: "Bitcoin Dev" <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> Se

[bitcoin-dev] On the security of softforks

2015-12-17 Thread Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev
Hello all, For a long time, I was personally of the opinion that soft forks constituted a mild security reduction for old full nodes, albeit one that was preferable to hard forks due to being far less risky, easier, and less forceful to deploy. After thinking more about this, I'm not convinced

Re: [bitcoin-dev] On the security of softforks

2015-12-17 Thread Jonathan Toomim via bitcoin-dev
On Dec 18, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev wrote: > 1) The risk of an old full node wallet accepting a transaction that is > invalid to the new rules. > > The receiver wallet chooses what address/script to accept coins on. > They'll