Re: [bitcoin-dev] PathCoin

2022-02-20 Thread AdamISZ via bitcoin-dev
An update, after some feedback, and me using the odd hour here and there to try to push this idea forward a bit: 1. I think (though I'm not 100% certain) that you can get rid of the fidelity bond requirement entirely with an eltoo/D-R-O type mechanism, assuming APOAS. 2. With a relaxation of

Re: [bitcoin-dev] PathCoin

2022-01-30 Thread Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev
> if you have a counterparty who is malicious and they *take action* to steal, then they can present you with two alternatives Generally I don't think this is the case. In this case, these are time-sensitive operations. There is no time to negotiate after the malicious party has taken action.

Re: [bitcoin-dev] PathCoin

2022-01-29 Thread AdamISZ via bitcoin-dev
> Justice. Also, there's no incentive for the honest party to not punish - > presumably their software would automatically punish, and why go through any > effort to stop it? A 1 cent bribe certainly wouldn't be enough. Maybe a $10 > bribe might get someone somewhere to install hacked up

Re: [bitcoin-dev] PathCoin

2022-01-28 Thread Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev
> what is the incentive for the honest party to punish? Justice. Also, there's no incentive for the honest party to not punish - presumably their software would automatically punish, and why go through any effort to stop it? A 1 cent bribe certainly wouldn't be enough. Maybe a $10 bribe might get

Re: [bitcoin-dev] PathCoin

2022-01-25 Thread AdamISZ via bitcoin-dev
Hi Billy, I read through the description. I think systems like this *mostly* fail due to game theory. With punishment-by-burn you have various issues that make it to my mind pretty unstable, too unstable to use for any serious system. To be fair, this isn't cut-and-dried. So let me unpack: (I

Re: [bitcoin-dev] PathCoin

2022-01-25 Thread Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev
There was a protocol someone mentioned a while back called Sabu that had the same goals. As i recall, it had some pretty promising constructs, but would have a critical vulnerability that could be exploited by miners. This is the write up:

[bitcoin-dev] PathCoin

2022-01-24 Thread AdamISZ via bitcoin-dev
Hello list, I took the time to write up this rather out-there idea: Imagine you wanted to send a coin just like email, i.e. just transfer data to the counterparty. Clearly this is in general entirely impossible; but with what restrictions and assumptions could you create a toy version of it?