Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-09-15 Thread Prayank via bitcoin-dev
> I like the idea of decentralizing the BIPs process. It is a historical > artifact that the bips repository is part of the same organization that > bitcoin core is part of. But there shouldn't be the perception that > standardization is driven by that, or that there is any kind of

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-04-27 Thread Melvin Carvalho via bitcoin-dev
On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 at 22:08, Greg Maxwell via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > I endorse Harding's recommendations. On the point about mirroring, > one thing to keep in mind is that the other repositories may go > offline. > > Modification confusion could be avoided

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-04-27 Thread Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev
> Despite the continual harassment, I have even made two efforts to try to > (fairly) make things faster, and have been obstructed both times by ST > advocates. It appears they intend to paint me as "deliberately refusing" > (to > use your words) in order to try to put Bitcoin and the BIP process

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-04-27 Thread Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev
seems like this is solved by a workflow where a maintainer who requests changes clearly tags every entry as "changes needed" or "review requested",, and then the author can resolve/remove the tag after the changes are made. not sure PR's are the right tech here. On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 6:28 AM

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-04-27 Thread John Newbery via bitcoin-dev
ACK. These seem like very reasonable next steps. On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 8:43 PM David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 05:31:50PM -0400, Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev > wrote: > > In general, I think its time we all agree the

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-04-27 Thread W. J. van der Laan via bitcoin-dev
On Monday, April 26th, 2021 at 9:43 PM, David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 05:31:50PM -0400, Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev wrote: > > > In general, I think its time we all agree the BIP process has simply failed > > > > and move on. Luckily its not really all that

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-04-26 Thread Greg Maxwell via bitcoin-dev
I endorse Harding's recommendations. On the point about mirroring, one thing to keep in mind is that the other repositories may go offline. Modification confusion could be avoided by recording what revision (commit hash) was current at the time of inclusion, but the document going offline can

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-04-26 Thread David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev
On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 05:31:50PM -0400, Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev wrote: > In general, I think its time we all agree the BIP process has simply failed > and move on. Luckily its not really all that critical and proposed protocol > documents can be placed nearly anywhere with the same effect.

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-04-25 Thread Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev
Alright, let's see... Sorting by most recently updated... https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pulls?page=1=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+sort%3Aupdated-asc+updated%3A%3E2021-01-01 #1104 has been updated nearly daily for the past many weeks. You commented 12 days ago saying "Concept NACK" (which isn't a thing

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-04-25 Thread Luke Dashjr via bitcoin-dev
On Sunday 25 April 2021 21:14:08 Matt Corallo wrote: > On 4/25/21 17:00, Luke Dashjr wrote: > > I will not become an accomplice to this deception by giving special > > treatment, and will process the BIP PR neutrally according to the > > currently-defined BIP process. > > Again, please don't play

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-04-25 Thread Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev
On 4/25/21 17:00, Luke Dashjr wrote: On Sunday 25 April 2021 20:29:44 Matt Corallo wrote: If the BIP editor is deliberately refusing to accept changes which the author's approval (which appears to be occurring here), It isn't. I am triaging BIPs PRs the same as I have for years, and will get

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-04-25 Thread Luke Dashjr via bitcoin-dev
On Sunday 25 April 2021 20:29:44 Matt Corallo wrote: > If the BIP editor is deliberately refusing to accept changes which the > author's approval (which appears to be occurring here), It isn't. I am triaging BIPs PRs the same as I have for years, and will get to them all in due time, likely

[bitcoin-dev] Reminder on the Purpose of BIPs

2021-04-25 Thread Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev
There appears to be some severe lack of understanding of the point of the BIP process here. The BIP process exists to be a place for those in the Bitcoin development community (which includes anyone who wishes to participate in it!) to place specifications which may be important for others in