Re: [bitcoin-dev] Design approaches for Signature Aggregation

2018-01-30 Thread Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 2:12 PM, Russell O'Connor wrote: > > and there are probably other designs for signature aggregation beyond the > two designs I'm discussing here. > For example, in private communication Pieter suggested putting the aggregate signature data into the top of the first segwit

[bitcoin-dev] Design approaches for Signature Aggregation

2018-01-30 Thread Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Matt Corallo wrote: > Gah, please no. I see no material reason why cross-input signature > aggregation shouldn't have the signatures in the first n-1 inputs replaced > with something like a single-byte push where a signature is required to > indicate aggregation,

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Blockchain Voluntary Fork (Split) Proposal (Chaofan Li)

2018-01-30 Thread Chaofan Li via bitcoin-dev
Hi ZmnSCPxj, On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:32 PM, ZmnSCPxj wrote: >What ensures that a paper money with "10 Dollar" on it, is same as 10 coins each with "1 Dollar" on it? >This is the principle of fungibility, and means I can exchange a paper with "10 Dollar" on it for 10 coins with "1 Dollar" on it,

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Blockchain Voluntary Fork (Split) Proposal (Chaofan Li)

2018-01-30 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good Morning Chaofan Li, > The human perception of difference will be eliminated. > Will your bank tell you whether your balance means coins or paper money? > If wallets and exchanges only show the total amount of btc rather than btc.0 > and btc.1, there is no human perception difference. This r

Re: [bitcoin-dev] How accurate are the Bitcoin timestamps?

2018-01-30 Thread Neiman via bitcoin-dev
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:54 PM, Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:40 PM, Tier Nolan via bitcoin-dev > wrote: > > if there were tighter time requirements in the protocol > miners would address them by running NTP which as

Re: [bitcoin-dev] How accurate are the Bitcoin timestamps?

2018-01-30 Thread Neiman via bitcoin-dev
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Tier Nolan via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > Much of Bitcoin operates on the assumption that a majority of miners are > honest. If 50%+ of miners set their timestamp reasonably accurately (say > within 10 mins), then the actual t