Re: [bitcoin-dev] Hiding entire content of on-chain transactions

2016-08-09 Thread James MacWhyte via bitcoin-dev
Signed by the key pair that was referenced in the output of the on-chain transaction? (Bob in my example, actually) Doesn't that mean it's easy to follow who is paying whom, you just can't see how much is going to reach recipient? On Tue, Aug 9, 2016, 04:40 Tony Churyumoff

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Number Request: Addresses over Audio

2016-08-09 Thread Jannes Faber via bitcoin-dev
Wow. No value judgement, but 1980 called, they want their radio broadcast for analogue modems back. Both very cool and very cringe worthy. It sounds quite horrible tbh. Imagine this being as pervasive as bar and qr codes. And it's as meaningful and unpleasant to the human ear as a qr code is to

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Number Request: Addresses over Audio

2016-08-09 Thread Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev
On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Daniel Hoffman via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > I have updated the GitHub a lot (changed tones to be less chirpy, fixed > some smalls) and made a couple of samples (see attachment for MP3 and FLAC > of both tone tables, first 16

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Number Request: Addresses over Audio

2016-08-09 Thread Thomas Daede via bitcoin-dev
If this is just encoding BIP-21 addresses, it is basically an "audio QR code". In this case, does publishing it as a BIP still make sense? (Not to imply that it doesn't, but it's something you should consider.) Please look at existing implementations of audio modems when creating your design. A

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Number Request: Addresses over Audio

2016-08-09 Thread Chris Riley via bitcoin-dev
Have you checked AudioModem out: https://github.com/applidium/AudioModem Or Chirp: http://www.chirp.io/faq/ Or this Network World article (particularly the last portion on bitcoin): http://www.networkworld.com/article/2956450/smartphones/sending-data-over-sound-revisited.html and

Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Number Request: Addresses over Audio

2016-08-09 Thread Luke Dashjr via bitcoin-dev
On Tuesday, August 09, 2016 11:06:20 PM Daniel Hoffman via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Is this good enough to warrant an official BIP number? Yeah, let's call it BIP 170. Next step is to: - Fix the BIP number in the file - Format it in the usual BIP mediawiki format instead of markdown - Add it to a

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Authentication BIP

2016-08-09 Thread Jonas Schnelli via bitcoin-dev
Hi Andy >> >>> Does openssh have this same problem? >> No. OpenSSH doesn't make an effort to protect the privacy of its users. >> >>> I'm assuming this could be parallelized very easily, so it is not a huge >>> problem? >> It's not a issue because we're not aware of any usecase where a node >>

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Hiding entire content of on-chain transactions

2016-08-09 Thread Henning Kopp via bitcoin-dev
Hi Tony, > > Regarding the blinding factor, I think you could just use HMAC. > How exactly? I am not entirely sure if this works. You wrote: > There is one technical nuance that I omitted above to avoid distraction. > Unlike regular bitcoin transactions, every output in a private payment >