Re: [bitcoin-dev] Speedy Trial

2022-03-11 Thread Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev
Thanks for pointing out that PR @pushd. Looks like pretty good evidence for what the status of consensus was around BIP8 in the last 2 years. @Jorge, I tried to engage with you on the topic of activation rules last year. This is where we left it

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Improving RBF Policy

2022-03-11 Thread Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev
Hi Gloria, > 1. Transaction relay rate limiting I have a similar concern as yours, that this could prevent higher fee-rate transactions from being broadcast. > 2. Staggered broadcast of replacement transactions: within some time interval, maybe accept multiple replacements for the same prevout,

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Jets (Was: `OP_FOLD`: A Looping Construct For Bitcoin SCRIPT)

2022-03-11 Thread Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev
> I think we would want to have a cleanstack rule at some point Ah is this a rule where a script shouldn't validate if more than just a true is left on the stack? I can see how that would prevent the non-soft-fork version of what I'm proposing. > How large is the critical mass needed? Well it se

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Speedy Trial

2022-03-11 Thread Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 13:47 Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 7:18 AM Jorge Timón wrote: > >> I talked about this. But the "no-divergent-rules" faction doesn't like >> it, so we can pretend we have listened to this "faction"

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Speedy Trial

2022-03-11 Thread Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 7:18 AM Jorge Timón wrote: > I talked about this. But the "no-divergent-rules" faction doesn't like it, > so we can pretend we have listened to this "faction" and addressed all its > concerns, I guess. > Or perhaps it's just "prosectution complex", but, hey, what do I know

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Speedy Trial

2022-03-11 Thread Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 00:12 Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > On Thu., Mar. 10, 2022, 08:04 Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev, < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > >> >> >> You're right, we shouldn't get personal. We shouldn't ignore feed

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Speedy Trial

2022-03-11 Thread pushd via bitcoin-dev
> Do you think BIP8 still has broad consensus? If that's the case, maybe all that's needed is to gather some evidence; and present it. This pull request had some support and a few disagreements: https://archive.fo/uw1cO pushd ---parallel lines meet a

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Speedy Trial

2022-03-11 Thread Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev
> BIP 8 did in fact have broad consensus I hear you claim this often Luke, but claiming its so does not make it so. Do you think BIP8 still has broad consensus? If that's the case, maybe all that's needed is to gather some evidence and present it. On