On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 02:08:21PM -0500, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev
wrote:
> While I support essentially any proposed taproot activation method, including
> a
> flag day activation, I think it is premature to call BIP8 dead.
>
> Even today, I still think that starting with BIP8 LOT=false i
Replies inline. Several sections removed, where I basically agree.
On 3/4/21 08:47, Russell O'Connor wrote:
Appologies as I've rearranged your comments in my reply.
I agree with you. I also think we have plenty of evidence to proceed with taproot and could proceed with a PR for such
a flag day
On Friday 05 March 2021 14:51:12 Ryan Grant via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:32 PM Keagan McClelland via bitcoin-dev
>
> wrote:
> > So that leads me to believe here that the folks who oppose LOT=true
> > primarily have an issue with forced signaling, which personally I
> > don't c
On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 7:32 PM Keagan McClelland via bitcoin-dev
wrote:
> So that leads me to believe here that the folks who oppose LOT=true
> primarily have an issue with forced signaling, which personally I
> don't care about as much, not the idea of committing to a UASF from
> the get go.
The
Mike was wrong about a number of things, and in the end decided that Bitcoin
was pointless, as people could not defend it against the state. He used this as
the basis for his defense of large blocks and centralized mining. When that
didn’t work out he quit, to work on centralized systems.
Peopl
I must remind everyone of Mike Hearn's proposal not many years ago, which
ought to be on everyone's mind right now. "Every soft fork should be a hard
fork, and that soft forks are inherently dangerous because old nodes are
tricked to not know what the new nodes are doing" (paraphrased). Whether
tap
As one of the folks that prefers LOT=true I can certainly attest to the
fact that at least some of us would be willing to do a flag day activation
instead. As far as I'm concerned, flag day does not give a very small
percentage of the user base (5-10% of minerz) the ability to veto a change
that ha
Appologies as I've rearranged your comments in my reply.
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 5:14 PM Matt Corallo
wrote:
>
> On 3/3/21 14:08, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>
> After a normal and successful Core update with LOT=false, we will have
> more data showing broad community support for the
would it help by first setting a regular period of e.g. 6 months when
only at that time would consensus rules ever be changed? not, "6
months from now taproot will be introduced', a rule, "*any* consensus
change regardless of what they are (including NO change) will *ONLY*
be made at regular inter
On 3/3/21 14:08, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev wrote:
While I support essentially any proposed taproot activation method, including a flag day activation, I think it is
premature to call BIP8 dead.
Even today, I still think that starting with BIP8 LOT=false is, generally speaking, consider
On 2021-03-03 20:48, Chris Belcher wrote:
On 03/03/2021 17:30, yanma...@cock.li wrote:
Is that supposed to be a good thing? "We should do X because it'll
work"
doesn't prove X is actually good. These things can be evil, but they
can
also be legitimate opposition to a change. Taking away the po
While I support essentially any proposed taproot activation method,
including a flag day activation, I think it is premature to call BIP8 dead.
Even today, I still think that starting with BIP8 LOT=false is, generally
speaking, considered a reasonably safe activation method in the sense that
I thi
It is good that social media drama can only make its own followers fork
away. In bitcoin people represent themselves, if they want certain rules
enforced they should have to actually tell their software to do that.
The problem with BIP8 is that social media drama has a incentive to
promote brinksma
On 2021-03-03 14:39, Chris Belcher via bitcoin-dev wrote:
Enter flag day activation. With a flag day there can be no
brinksmanship. A social media blitz cant do anything except have its
own
followers fork away. Crucially, miner signalling cant be used to change
the activation date for nodes tha
The bitcoin world is close to total gridlock on the question of how to
activate taproot. There's no agreement on activation[1][2], and if an
agreement isn't reached then nothing happens. That would be really
terrible because we'd miss out on the benefits of taproot and
potentially other future soft
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