Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork

2015-08-20 Thread Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 11:00:14AM +0200, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev wrote: It is just that no one else is reckless enough to bypass the review process I keep seeing this notion crop up. I want to kill this idea right now: - There were months of public discussion leading to up

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork

2015-08-20 Thread Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev
It is just that no one else is reckless enough to bypass the review process I keep seeing this notion crop up. I want to kill this idea right now: - There were months of public discussion leading to up the authoring of BIP 101, both on this mailing list and elsewhere. - BIP 101 was

[bitcoin-dev] Visualizations of Votes

2015-08-20 Thread odinn via bitcoin-dev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is a simple post. Who's got visualizations of votes? One I've seen that I liked was http://bipsxdevs.azurewebsites.net/ This just covered how developers feel about the various BIPs though. A visualization I would like to see would include:

[bitcoin-dev] Will there be a freeze of the current protocol version?

2015-08-20 Thread Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev
Hello, BitPay seems to support BIP 101: https://medium.com/@spair/increasing-the-block-size-limit-85ff236fc516 We do not know where this is going. But I suspect that ultimately also the core client will increase the block size. Bitcoin is also the subject of research. I think that research is

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap

2015-08-20 Thread Milly Bitcoin via bitcoin-dev
The idea is to come up with some sort of standardized metric so as the tools and issues come up you are comparing similar things. The first thing you have to do is link centralization pressure and (pressure to merge with a big miner) to some sort of overall decentralization metric. For

[bitcoin-dev] Analyzing mathematical / scientific sanity of XT's foundation (BIP101)

2015-08-20 Thread xor via bitcoin-dev
Hello, For sake of peace, I wanted to give a chance to XT's block size growth efforts by actually *reading* BIP101 [1] which seems to be their specification. Thus, please read this mail as something which aims to establish peaceful cooperation between the non-XT and XT community; not as

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap

2015-08-20 Thread Tom Harding via bitcoin-dev
On 8/20/2015 3:23 AM, Milly Bitcoin via bitcoin-dev wrote: For the 73th time or so this month on this list: The maximum block size consensus rule limits mining centralization (which is currently pretty bad). Instead of posting all these messages with bald claims why don't you work on a

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Will there be a freeze of the current protocol version?

2015-08-20 Thread odinn via bitcoin-dev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To answer your question, from my perspective, I am not opposed to block size increase.. I am hoping it would be in the context of something like BIP 100 as I've said before. But I'm extremely opposed to XT. Would I continue with bitcoin if things

Re: [bitcoin-dev] CLTV/CSV/etc. deployment considerations due to XT/Not-BitcoinXT miners

2015-08-20 Thread jl2012 via bitcoin-dev
Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev 於 2015-08-19 01:50 寫到: 2) nVersion mask, with IsSuperMajority() In this option the nVersion bits set by XT/Not-Bitcoin-XT miners would be masked away, prior to applying standard IsSuperMajority() logic: block.nVersion ~0x2007 This means that

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Libconsensus separated repository (was Bitcoin Core and hard forks)

2015-08-20 Thread Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev
I dont think a libconsensus would have any kind of networking layer, nor is C++ an antique tool set (hopefully libconsensus can avoid a boost dependency, though thats not antique either). Ideally it would have a simple API to give it blocks and a simple API for it to inform you of what the current

Re: [bitcoin-dev] CLTV/CSV/etc. deployment considerations due to XT/Not-BitcoinXT miners

2015-08-20 Thread Mark Friedenbach via bitcoin-dev
No, the nVersion would be = 4, so that we don't waste any version values. On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:32 AM, jl2012 via bitcoin-dev bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org wrote: Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev 於 2015-08-19 01:50 寫到: 2) nVersion mask, with IsSuperMajority() In this option the

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Revisiting NODE_BLOOM: Proposed BIP

2015-08-20 Thread Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 01:48:23AM -0400, Jeff Garzik via bitcoin-dev wrote: If this is widely deployed + enabled, what is the impact to current wallets in use? See my comment on the recently-opened issue, reproduced below. In short, not all that much, especially if we adopt my suggestion of

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-20 Thread Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev
I was looking at this site recently and it's not very clear that by clicking the name you get their opinion. I would make that a separate column stated, Technical Opinion. I think you need to include more of the developers/technical people, Adam Back, Mark Friedenback, Jorge Timons, (all of who

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Core Devs : can you share your thoughts about all BIPs on this website ?

2015-08-20 Thread Nicolas Dorier via bitcoin-dev
Thanks, btcdrak, I just added the column and you in the list. (looks nicer) What I am calling core devs in the website is only commit access people, should I rename this group ? I just want a way to improve readability of the website by grouping, I am open to all subjection on different way of

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Libconsensus separated repository (was Bitcoin Core and hard forks)

2015-08-20 Thread Tamas Blummer via bitcoin-dev
I know what you mean as I already have such a component with pluggable block store and networking. While you are at it you could aim for isolation of bitcoin specific decisions and algos from generic block chain code. The magnitude of refactoring you would have to do to get there from main.cpp

Re: [bitcoin-dev] Libconsensus separated repository (was Bitcoin Core and hard forks)

2015-08-20 Thread Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev
On 08/20/15 21:26, Tamas Blummer wrote: I know what you mean as I already have such a component with pluggable block store and networking. I'm not suggesting pluggable networking, I'm suggesting (and I think everyone thinks the design should be) NO networking. The API is ValidationResult