Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Lightning-dev] RBF Pinning with Counterparties and Competing Interest

2020-06-24 Thread Matt Corallo via bitcoin-dev
Given transaction relay delays and a network topology that is rather transparent if you look closely enough, I think this is very real and very practical (double-digit % success rate, at least, with some trial and error probably 50+). That said, we all also probably know most of the people who

Re: [bitcoin-dev] MAD-HTLC

2020-06-24 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Nadav, > > I and some number of Lightning devs consider this to be sufficient > > disincentive to Bob not attacking in the first place. > > An additional disincentive could be introduced in the form of bribery proofs > for failed attempts. > > If we assume that "honest" users of

Re: [bitcoin-dev] MAD-HTLC

2020-06-24 Thread ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev
Good morning Stanga et al, > > Hi ZmnSCPxj,  > > > > Thank you for taking the time to respond, these are very good points. > > Responses inline. > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:48 PM ZmnSCPxj wrote: > > > > > Good morning Itay, Ittay, and Matan, > > > > > > I believe an unstated assumption