Re: [Bitcoin-development] 75%/95% threshold for transaction versions

2015-04-24 Thread Jorge Timón
s7r you may be interested in this video explaining several aspects of malleability: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDE-aFqJTs It is pre BIP62, but I believe it is very relevant and will hopefully clear some of your doubts. The signer of TX1 will always be able to change the signature and thus

Re: [Bitcoin-development] 75%/95% threshold for transaction versions

2015-04-24 Thread Jorge Timón
Oh, no, sorry, it also covers bip62. On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Jorge Timón jti...@jtimon.cc wrote: s7r you may be interested in this video explaining several aspects of malleability: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyDE-aFqJTs It is pre BIP62, but I believe it is very relevant and will

[Bitcoin-development] Fwd: Reusable payment codes

2015-04-24 Thread Justus Ranvier
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: So this requires making dust payments to a constantly reused address in order to (ab)use the blockchain as a messaging layer. Indeed, this is more SPV compatible; but it seems likely to me that _in practice_ it would

[Bitcoin-development] Fwd: Reusable payment codes

2015-04-24 Thread Justus Ranvier
I have pushed an updated version of the proposal which incorporates some of the received feedback and adds a note about the consequences of sharing a payment code-enabled walled on multiple devices: https://github.com/justusranvier/rfc/blob/payment_code/bips/bip-pc01.mediawiki

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: Reusable payment codes

2015-04-24 Thread Justus Ranvier
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 3:30 AM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Justus Ranvier justus.ranv...@monetas.net wrote: Taking the hash of the secret would then require an extra step to make sure the hash is valid for secp256k1. The x value may not

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Reusable payment codes

2015-04-24 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Justus Ranvier justus.ranv...@monetas.net wrote: https://github.com/justusranvier/rfc/blob/payment_code/bips/bip-pc01.mediawiki This link contains an RFC for a new type of Bitcoin address called a payment code Payment codes are SPV-friendly alternatives to

Re: [Bitcoin-development] 75%/95% threshold for transaction versions

2015-04-24 Thread William Swanson
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:12 AM, s7r s...@sky-ip.org wrote: Thanks for your reply. I agree. Allen has a good point in the previous email too, so the suggestion might not fix anything and complicate things. The BIP 62 approach to malleability isn't the only option. Another approach is to sign

Re: [Bitcoin-development] 75%/95% threshold for transaction versions

2015-04-24 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 7:58 PM, William Swanson swanson...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:12 AM, s7r s...@sky-ip.org wrote: Thanks for your reply. I agree. Allen has a good point in the previous email too, so the suggestion might not fix anything and complicate things. The BIP 62

[Bitcoin-development] Reusable payment codes

2015-04-24 Thread Justus Ranvier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 https://github.com/justusranvier/rfc/blob/payment_code/bips/bip-pc01.mediawiki This link contains an RFC for a new type of Bitcoin address called a payment code Payment codes are SPV-friendly alternatives to DarkWallet-style stealth addresses