Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: MultiBit as default desktop client on bitcoin.org

2013-07-09 Thread Mike Hearn
Modern Java versions let you bundle the app with a stripped down JVM. I don't know if Jim does that, but I think it's an obvious step towards making MultiBit friendlier and easier to use. BTW I believe most secure browsers (Chrome, Firefox) have banned the applet plugin or severely restrained it

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: MultiBit as default desktop client on bitcoin.org

2013-07-09 Thread Daniel F
on 07/09/2013 06:56 AM Jim said the following: + it will bump up the MultiBit download from about 11MB to 30-40MB (I think). This drops the maximum copies of MultiBit the multibit.org server can deliver per day from around 90,000 to 30,000ish. The multibit.org server maxes out at 1 TB of

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: MultiBit as default desktop client on bitcoin.org

2013-07-09 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Daniel F nanot...@gmail.com wrote: on 07/09/2013 06:56 AM Jim said the following: + it will bump up the MultiBit download from about 11MB to 30-40MB (I think). This drops the maximum copies of MultiBit the multibit.org server can deliver per day from around

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: MultiBit as default desktop client on bitcoin.org

2013-07-09 Thread Jim
For those interested in these things the multibit.org server is a dedicated server hosted by the German company http://www.server4you.net. It is physically located in the delightful city of Strasbourg, just on the French side of the French German border. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013, at 03:28 PM,

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: MultiBit as default desktop client on bitcoin.org

2013-07-09 Thread Daniel F
on 07/09/2013 10:28 AM Mike Hearn said the following: SourceForge has a horrible UI and blocks some countries. It also exposes us to a large and potentially hackable mirror network. Whilst we're not bandwidth constrained on our own servers, let's try and keep using them. the point was just

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: MultiBit as default desktop client on bitcoin.org

2013-07-09 Thread Mike Hearn
That's true - we could serve new users off our own servers and auto updates off SF.net mirrors, potentially. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Daniel F nanot...@gmail.com wrote: on 07/09/2013 10:28 AM Mike Hearn said the following: SourceForge has a horrible UI and blocks some countries. It

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: MultiBit as default desktop client on bitcoin.org

2013-07-09 Thread Nick Simpson
What about something like Cloudflare? Transparent to most and it'd help with your bandwidth issues. Mike Hearn m...@plan99.net wrote: That's true - we could serve new users off our own servers and auto updates off SF.net mirrors, potentially. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Daniel F

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: MultiBit as default desktop client on bitcoin.org

2013-07-09 Thread Nick Simpson
Not any more than sourceforge or github.. None of these solutions are replacements, but rather only supplements to self hosted files. Jeff Garzik jgar...@bitpay.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Nick Simpson n...@mynicknet.com wrote: What about something like Cloudflare? Transparent

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: MultiBit as default desktop client on bitcoin.org

2013-07-09 Thread Johnathan Corgan
On 07/09/2013 08:32 AM, Nick Simpson wrote: What about something like Cloudflare? Transparent to most and it'd help with your bandwidth issues. By way of endorsement, at the GNU Radio Project we switched to CloudFlare's free service tier a few months ago. We host on AWS EC2 our own web

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: MultiBit as default desktop client on bitcoin.org

2013-07-09 Thread Mike Hearn
That's good to know. Still, at the moment we'd need to dramatically increase the download size and increase Bitcoin usage by 10x to hit our limits. It'd be a good problem to have. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Johnathan Corgan johnat...@corganlabs.comwrote: On 07/09/2013 08:32 AM, Nick

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: MultiBit as default desktop client on bitcoin.org

2013-07-09 Thread Andreas Petersson
It particulary worries me that a lot of sites hand over their SSL private keys to Cloudflare, and they are located in prism land. Cloudflare is rapidly becoming a bitcoin community SPOF. -- See everything from the