Re: [Bitcoin-development] Procedure for non-tech contributions

2014-03-03 Thread Wladimir
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Tom Geller t...@tomgeller.com wrote:

 Anyway, this particular solution doesn't appear to be possible in this
 case, as the file isn't at
 https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/0.9.0/doc/release-notes , and I
 don't believe I could copy it to the repository without going the whole git
 route. Suggestions welcome, here or privately.


It's not entirely trivial as you have to make sure you're editing on the
0.9 branch not the master branch, but can be done like this:

- Go to https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/0.9.0/doc/release-notes.md
- Click edit
- Make your changes and add a commit message describing the change, usually
something like 'doc: Add missing foowidget to release notes'.

Wladimir
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Procedure for non-tech contributions

2014-03-03 Thread Mike Hearn
Hey Tom,

Thanks for getting involved! It's great to see someone who would like to
focus on docs.

One project I've been thinking about recently is a Bitcoin Developer
Network subsection of our website. Right now bitcoin.org is entirely
consumer focused. And as you noted, the wiki is undergoing some kind of
heart attack - it's not an ideal medium for professional docs anyway.

So it's too hard to learn how to work with Bitcoin as a developer, and we
could really benefit from professionally curated web content. We have a
great web dev in the form of Saivann, who recently got some sponsorship
from the Foundation to spend time on the website, so I'm hoping that if we
find people to produce the content then he can with the visual design and
we could create something really special.

If you're interested in this let me know.


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Tom Geller t...@tomgeller.com wrote:

 On Mar 3, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Tom Geller wrote:

  FYI, I made my edits to the release notes of 0.9.0rc2; the pull request
 is at https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/3787. I gladly welcome
 corrections as needed.

 It failed testing. I assume I'll get emails as others add comments; please
 contact me privately if it doesn't, and you're willing to help this n00b.
 Thanks,

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[Bitcoin-development] Is this a safe thing to be doing with ECC addition? (Oracle protocol)

2014-03-03 Thread Edmund Edgar
Some people may have seen my service Reality Keys, which can perform a role
a bit like an External State Oracle as described previously by Mike Hearn
and others. (I like to think of it as a Certificate Authority for
propositions, doing for facts what Verisign do for identities.) You
register a possible outcome with us, we publish a public key for yes and
another for no, and once the outcome happens or fails to happen, we
publish the appropriate private key.

A few people have been asking for advice on the best way to use our keys to
make m-of-n contracts, where each party locks up their stake in a
transaction, then the winner gets their private key from Reality Keys and
uses it to release the funds. Peter Todd suggested what seems like a very
nice way to do this without needing non-standard transactions or refund
transactions. I've had a go at implementing it and it seems to work, but I
don't know enough about this to distinguish the ECC bit of it from magic,
so I'm wondering if people who do understand it could comment on whether
it's a safe thing to be doing.

What I'm trying to do here is to combine the public key of each party with
the public key of the outcome they're representing, eg I make a public key
with:
 alice-pub + reality-key-yes-pub
...and another with:
 bob-pub + reality-key-no-pub

That goes into a 1/2 P2SH address (in the simplest possible case), which is
spendable by one of Alice or Bob after the outcome occurs with either:
 alice-priv + reality-key-yes-priv
...or
 bob-priv + reality-key-no-priv

I'm making the transaction with add_pubkeys, then spending it with
add_privkeys, both from:
https://github.com/vbuterin/pybitcointools/blob/master/pybitcointools/main.py#L173

What's worrying my superstitious mind is that knowing reality-key-no-pub
before he has to produce bob-pub, I'm wondering if there's something Bob
could do with bob-pub to intentionally weaken the resulting (bob-pub +
reality-key-no-pub) so that he could sign a transaction with it without
needing to know reality-key-no-priv.

My example script (and specifically the bit that's scaring me) is here:
https://github.com/edmundedgar/realitykeys-examples/blob/master/realitykeysdemo.py#L247

PS. I hope I'm not too far off-topic. Peter Todd suggested it might be
worth talking about here as it potentially has implications for other
protocols. If people prefer to respond at bitcointalk instead, we've been
discussing it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260898.60

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Founder, Social Minds Inc (KK)
Twitter: @edmundedgar
Linked In: edmundedgar
Skype: edmundedgar
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Is this a safe thing to be doing with ECC addition? (Oracle protocol)

2014-03-03 Thread Odinn Cyberguerrilla
Nothing is safe.

Take risks.  Engage one trouble at a time.

Perform unexpected actions.

Observe the results.

Rinse and repeat.

Ignore the lions.  They too shall pass.

Do not sleep under a roof. Carry no money or food. Go alone to places
frightening to the common brand of men. Become a criminal of purpose. Be
put in jail, and extricate yourself by your own wisdom.

-- Miyamoto Musashi (Niten Ichi-ryƫ)



 Some people may have seen my service Reality Keys, which can perform a
 role
 a bit like an External State Oracle as described previously by Mike Hearn
 and others. (I like to think of it as a Certificate Authority for
 propositions, doing for facts what Verisign do for identities.) You
 register a possible outcome with us, we publish a public key for yes and
 another for no, and once the outcome happens or fails to happen, we
 publish the appropriate private key.

 A few people have been asking for advice on the best way to use our keys
 to
 make m-of-n contracts, where each party locks up their stake in a
 transaction, then the winner gets their private key from Reality Keys and
 uses it to release the funds. Peter Todd suggested what seems like a very
 nice way to do this without needing non-standard transactions or refund
 transactions. I've had a go at implementing it and it seems to work, but I
 don't know enough about this to distinguish the ECC bit of it from magic,
 so I'm wondering if people who do understand it could comment on whether
 it's a safe thing to be doing.

 What I'm trying to do here is to combine the public key of each party with
 the public key of the outcome they're representing, eg I make a public key
 with:
  alice-pub + reality-key-yes-pub
 ...and another with:
  bob-pub + reality-key-no-pub

 That goes into a 1/2 P2SH address (in the simplest possible case), which
 is
 spendable by one of Alice or Bob after the outcome occurs with either:
  alice-priv + reality-key-yes-priv
 ...or
  bob-priv + reality-key-no-priv

 I'm making the transaction with add_pubkeys, then spending it with
 add_privkeys, both from:
 https://github.com/vbuterin/pybitcointools/blob/master/pybitcointools/main.py#L173

 What's worrying my superstitious mind is that knowing reality-key-no-pub
 before he has to produce bob-pub, I'm wondering if there's something Bob
 could do with bob-pub to intentionally weaken the resulting (bob-pub +
 reality-key-no-pub) so that he could sign a transaction with it without
 needing to know reality-key-no-priv.

 My example script (and specifically the bit that's scaring me) is here:
 https://github.com/edmundedgar/realitykeys-examples/blob/master/realitykeysdemo.py#L247

 PS. I hope I'm not too far off-topic. Peter Todd suggested it might be
 worth talking about here as it potentially has implications for other
 protocols. If people prefer to respond at bitcointalk instead, we've been
 discussing it here:
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260898.60

 --
 Edmund Edgar
 Founder, Social Minds Inc (KK)
 Twitter: @edmundedgar
 Linked In: edmundedgar
 Skype: edmundedgar
 http://www.socialminds.jp

 Reality Keys
 @realitykeys
 e...@realitykeys.com
 https://www.realitykeys.com
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