Re: [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Freeze on Transaction Attack (FRONT)

2014-10-06 Thread Alex Mizrahi
I've heard about this idea from TierNolan. Here's some quick an dirty analysis: Suppose the last known block claimed a large tx fee of L. A miner who owns 1/N of the total hashrate needs to choose between two strategies: 1. Mine on top of that block and win usual reward R with probability 1/N.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Freeze on Transaction Attack (FRONT)

2014-10-06 Thread Mike Hearn
the block size being lower than the instant offered demand (there is always a backlog) are both things which address the concern of this thread. :) I'm skeptical such a situation can ever be stable. People have no incentive to create a transaction that will remain stuck in the backlog

Re: [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Freeze on Transaction Attack (FRONT)

2014-10-06 Thread Tamas Blummer
Note that the problem might arise also by a bug / accident and not as an attack. Since value spent is not part of the signature it is easy to create an arbitrary fee by a defective wallet software. Collecting that huge fee might provide a higher incentive to miner than the block subsidy on the

Re: [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Freeze on Transaction Attack (FRONT)

2014-10-06 Thread Sergio Lerner
Comments between lines... On 06/10/2014 03:42 a.m., Alex Mizrahi wrote: . This doesn't require protocol changes(*) and can be simply incorporated into a piece of code which decides what to do when a transaction with unusually large fee appears. (I.e. it will automatically share the fee,

Re: [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Freeze on Transaction Attack (FRONT)

2014-10-06 Thread Tamas Blummer
Sergio, you can call this an ORBS attack or an attempt of ad-hoc coalition forming for a fork. Preparation Step: Include a transaction sending a sizable amount between two of your own addresses in every block. Miner can do this at zero cost in their own blocks. Execution: Embed into the