Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP process
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Earlier in the discussion I suggested Discourse so that the BIP page would be able to look smoother and draw more input. Unsystem forum is run on Discourse and has twitter, github, and e-mail integration. For those who haven't explored it, here is what that looks / feels like: https://forum.unsystem.net/ I'm curious as to why this sort of solution should or should not be considered from someone else's perspective. In the end, whatever works best for all concerned, I'm fine with it, but I'd like to hear more about people's thoughts on Discourse. (I kind of like the feel of it.) xor wrote: > On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 10:29:43 AM Wladimir wrote: >> B) I also think it makes sense to move the BIP discussion (both >> about the BIP process and individual BIPs) to a separate mailing >> list. >> >> bitcoin-development currently has a dual function: discussion of >> Bitcoin Core implementation concerns, as well as global changes >> to Bitcoin (in the form of BIPs). >> >> This makes the list too busy for some people, but it is critical >> that everyone writing a Bitcoin node or client is up-to-date >> with proposals and can comment on them. > > I joined the list when Bitcoin was already in the 10-billions of > market capitalization, and it actually really surprised me how low > the traffic is here given the importance of Bitcoin. > > So as a random stranger to the project, I would vote against that > if I was allowed to. There really should be *more* discussion here, > and splitting the list up won't help with that. > > Greetings > > > > -- > > > > Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. > Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, > voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions > from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho > > > > ___ Bitcoin-development > mailing list Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > - -- http://abis.io ~ "a protocol concept to enable decentralization and expansion of a giving economy, and a new social good" https://keybase.io/odinn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJURFhXAAoJEGxwq/inSG8Cpc0H+wZauz7iOj4XZJSI3VBv+5WL YAe8kDSOpa5ZprFntsFfKVU+cmSjXckPjCRI9+LsrfTR2L+VjAimjQTct1m6oRAo +5ZQ8Tn2CLEVRJRUzd8zbW8QPMuQCdzvwjs1oq8anaAPdwseEC/QhTZY6Av1MB8y nH+05mMu4YeF3RRIyjXgvxDiBBK3knoaBkbsORkVbIb7MojUBy7FnsS1JFmSs8wv XwWnkmFjVlhC8wSQYohcTWdJablxjpKRFq1ZNgDtIoXEi0dsC+G9Gc+8xub4hA/Y nDk85ihX17TBbB47SOJEAdpGrJjkb8OvdX2ubLnQPYth82wX/MWJTTdv2a4JGik= =uYGH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ Bitcoin-development mailing list Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP process
On Sunday 19. October 2014 09.17.51 xor wrote: > I joined the list when Bitcoin was already in the 10-billions of market > capitalization, and it actually really surprised me how low the traffic is > here given the importance of Bitcoin. I gather that actual code changes to bitcoin-core and naturally all the other clients are already done in another place. Which is likely the reason for your impression. > So as a random stranger to the project, I would vote against that if I was > allowed to. There really should be *more* discussion here, and splitting > the list up won't help with that. I agree with your stance that more discussion in public is always good. Lets allow people that work on bitcoin java, or completely other bitcoin based stuff to have a simple way to filter out the topics they are interested in. Mailinglist handling is pretty trivial in practically all email software, people can equally trivially subscribe to multiple lists as their interests go. As a long time open source developer, my experience is that more lists has never really caused fragmentation in the way that you fear. -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ Bitcoin-development mailing list Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP process
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:17 AM, xor wrote: > So as a random stranger to the project, I would vote against that if I was > allowed to. There really should be *more* discussion here, and splitting the > list up won't help with that. The problem is not one of traffic, but of confusion of concerns, and of focus. That specific questions about Bitcoin Core are being asked, for example about watch-only functionality, in the same list where changes to the entire system (BIPs) should be decided on doesn't make sense. This has in practice caused some developers of alternative clients to not subscribe to this list, even though they *should* follow BIP discussion otherwise it makes no sense to have a process in the first place. Wladimir -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho ___ Bitcoin-development mailing list Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP process
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 8:17 AM, xor wrote: > I joined the list when Bitcoin was already in the 10-billions of market > capitalization, and it actually really surprised me how low the traffic is > here > given the importance of Bitcoin. > > So as a random stranger to the project, I would vote against that if I was > allowed to. There really should be *more* discussion here, and splitting > the > list up won't help with that. I agree. This is also where the best peer review is to be found. Splitting the list will dilute this. -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho___ Bitcoin-development mailing list Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP process
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 10:29:43 AM Wladimir wrote: > B) I also think it makes sense to move the BIP discussion (both about > the BIP process and individual BIPs) to a separate mailing list. > > bitcoin-development currently has a dual function: discussion of > Bitcoin Core implementation concerns, as well as global changes to > Bitcoin (in the form of BIPs). > > This makes the list too busy for some people, but it is critical that > everyone writing a Bitcoin node or client is up-to-date with proposals > and can comment on them. I joined the list when Bitcoin was already in the 10-billions of market capitalization, and it actually really surprised me how low the traffic is here given the importance of Bitcoin. So as a random stranger to the project, I would vote against that if I was allowed to. There really should be *more* discussion here, and splitting the list up won't help with that. Greetings signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Comprehensive Server Monitoring with Site24x7. Monitor 10 servers for $9/Month. Get alerted through email, SMS, voice calls or mobile push notifications. Take corrective actions from your mobile device. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Zoho___ Bitcoin-development mailing list Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
