Re: [Bitcoin-development] Embedded consensus system upgrade procedures

2014-02-15 Thread Jorge Timón
Not a lawyer, but I don't see what would prevent me from writing contracts like: I owe the holder of this contract 10 usd (IOU) I owe the holder of this contract 10 usd in beer (voucher) I owe the holder of this p2p asset 10 usd in beer (p2p voucher) Of course, there must be a legal contract

[Bitcoin-development] Embedded consensus system upgrade procedures

2014-02-09 Thread Peter Todd
The Problem === We have an embedded consensus system and we want to be able to upgrade it with new rules. There inevitably will be a transition period where some users use clients that interpret the new rules, while others only interpret the old rules. Since we only rely on the host

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Embedded consensus system upgrade procedures

2014-02-09 Thread Luke-Jr
On Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:12:14 PM Peter Todd wrote: We have an embedded consensus system and we want to be able to upgrade it with new rules. This asserts a central authority and gives developers too much power.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Embedded consensus system upgrade procedures

2014-02-09 Thread Peter Todd
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 05:25:41PM +, Luke-Jr wrote: On Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:12:14 PM Peter Todd wrote: We have an embedded consensus system and we want to be able to upgrade it with new rules. This asserts a central authority and gives developers too much power. Please, the

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Embedded consensus system upgrade procedures

2014-02-09 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 05:25:41PM +, Luke-Jr wrote: On Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:12:14 PM Peter Todd wrote: We have an embedded consensus system and we want to be able to upgrade it with new rules. This asserts a central authority and gives developers too much power. I don't quite

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Embedded consensus system upgrade procedures

2014-02-09 Thread Peter Todd
On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 12:11:32PM -0600, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 05:25:41PM +, Luke-Jr wrote: On Sunday, February 09, 2014 5:12:14 PM Peter Todd wrote: We have an embedded consensus system and we want to be able to upgrade it with new rules. This asserts

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Embedded consensus system upgrade procedures

2014-02-09 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
The only 'assertion' of central authority here is people who download and run the code and submit to whatever the code asserts they are supposed to do. At least with the 'central authority' of the big-business bitcoin developer cabal I can read the code before I submit to it's