Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-03 Thread grarpamp
Reply-To Munging Considered Harmful http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Ok, ok. but only because this reminds me of the top-posting and formatting advice page that I can't seem to find right now. But I'm not munging what my client decides to put in to/cc on a g reply either :)

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-03 Thread Jorge Timón
On 5/3/12, Andreas Schildbach andr...@schildbach.de wrote: Can we add Bitcoin Wallet? Someone said to me that the cell phone apps they had tried were still too slow. I'm still using an old phone so I didn't know well what to answer him. I recomended him bitcoin wallet and bitcoin spinner, but I

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-03 Thread Andreas Schildbach
On 05/03/2012 11:24 AM, Jorge Timón wrote: On 5/3/12, Andreas Schildbach andr...@schildbach.de wrote: Can we add Bitcoin Wallet? Someone said to me that the cell phone apps they had tried were still too slow. I'm still using an old phone so I didn't know well what to answer him. I never

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Mike Hearn
We're debating the descriptions on the thread. I provided rewritten descriptions that try and keep with the theme per client goal, whilst being less technical. I think it's unclear how best to run this page. It's clear we need one though. If everyone can just submit whatever they like then we'll

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Luke-Jr
On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:22:42 AM Mike Hearn wrote: The original software written by Satoshi Nakamoto, the project's founder. This is just wrong. While Bitcoin-Qt is by far the best client, it is Wladimir's, not Satoshi's. If your computer is low powered or you aren't willing to tolerate

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Mike Hearn
What computer is the initial start time 24-hours+ now? On normal systems initial sync-up now takes a couple hours. OK, I haven't tried a full block chain sync for a while. If it's only a couple of hours that's great. Let's change that.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Mike Hearn
Bitcoin-qt is translated into a pretty broad set of languages (now— I cant tell you how many of them are _good_). Listing language just under multibit makes it sound like a distinguishing characteristic. Fair enough then, let's take that out.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Alan Reiner
Btw, I sent updated text to Genjix Armory. I hope that gets included or reviewed. And I agree about the $4k donations thing. That's complete immaterial for this page. Though the rest of the description there is reasonable, and might even be better than what I sent Genjix. -Alan On Wed, May

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread grarpamp
While Bitcoin-Qt is by far the best client This is purely subjective. One's best is another's worst. These are both things which are particular suitable to clear objective enumeration. Yes, so for the purposes of compiling a list of clients and libraries, please just stick to a table of

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Luke-Jr
On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:21:13 PM grarpamp wrote: Can someone also please set the reply-to header for these lists. It's really annoying to hit reply and not have the list address show up. Thanks :) Try Reply to All

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread grarpamp
it's unclear how best to run this page. It's clear we need one though. the right path is probably the middle one - have some descriptions that try to be neutral Do it in two parts... - overview, history, architecture model, 'whys'. - agnostic table of features, platforms, stats, protocols,

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread grarpamp
Try Reply to All That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc', which dupes to the sender and eventually blows out the to and cc lines as everyone chimes in and doesn't trim. 'reply to' solves most of that. assuming the list sw can do it.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: Try Reply to All That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc', which dupes to the sender and eventually blows out the to and cc lines as everyone chimes in and doesn't trim. 'reply to' solves most of that. assuming the

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Amir Taaki
-development] new bitcoin.org clients page On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: Try Reply to All That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc', which dupes to the sender and eventually blows out the to and cc lines as everyone chimes in and doesn't trim. 'reply

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Gary Rowe
] new bitcoin.org clients page On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: Try Reply to All That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc', which dupes to the sender and eventually blows out the to and cc lines as everyone chimes in and doesn't trim. 'reply

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Alan Reiner
Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: Try Reply to All That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc', which dupes to the sender and eventually blows out

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Raphael NICOLLE
Too technical if you ask me. We want a webpage for the dumbest end-user I think. Java? C? What the heck is this? Blockchain? Qt? Regards, Raphael On 05/02/2012 09:34 PM, Gary Rowe wrote: How about keeping it simple? Bitcoin-Qt * Requires the entire blockchain * Standalone client * Designed

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Alan Reiner
: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: Try Reply to All That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc', which dupes to the sender and eventually blows out

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Gary Rowe
: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: Try Reply to All That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc', which dupes to the sender and eventually blows out

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Alan Reiner
@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote: Try Reply to All That puts the sender in 'to' and list in 'cc', which dupes to the sender and eventually

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Luke-Jr
On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 3:34:35 PM Gary Rowe wrote: Bitcoin-Qt * Developed in C This is far less relevant than license... Armory * Requires the entire blockchain * Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt Or bitcoind? Electrum * Dependent client of Bitcoin-Qt (on server) Dependent on

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-05-02 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Amir Taaki zgen...@yahoo.com wrote: Check it :) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/34 Personally, all this seems far too focused on a centralized website (bitcoin.org), and presents far too many choices at once to the user. On bitcoin.org (registered by

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-04-30 Thread Alan Reiner
Hey, looks good! I'm glad to see them sorted alphabetically :) A couple comments: I don't think the entries for wallet security and backups accurately describe Armory. Wallet Security should say Encrypt/Offline or something to to that effect -- after all, offline wallets are the holy grail

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-04-30 Thread Amir Taaki
...@yahoo.com Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page Hey, looks good!  I'm glad to see them sorted alphabetically :) A couple comments:  I don't

Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page

2012-04-30 Thread Alan Reiner
bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] new bitcoin.org clients page Hey, looks good! I'm glad to see them sorted alphabetically :) A couple comments: I don't think the entries for wallet security and backups