Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP: register with IANA for bitcoin/cryptocoin port numbers

2014-01-03 Thread Wladimir

 Ideally it would be good to have two ports, one for the main net, and one
 for the test net.  However, in light of conservation only one may be
 granted.  The question as to whether traffic could be multiplexed over a
 single port may be raised.


I'm sure it would be *possible*, but testnet and mainnet are entirely
separate networks. Not only that, but the entire point of the testnet is
separation. There is no logic to multiplexing them.

If conservation is an issue, I'd forgo the testnet port. We don't have a
'test ssh' or 'test mail server' port either, most people will just
allocate a temporary number for those themselves.

In case the port is already in use, bitcoin can run on and announce any
another port. There is no strict need for it to be 8333 (or 18333) at all.

There isn't even an argument for convenience. Most of the time, users don't
specify nodes. And in the rare cases that they do they can specify a port
as well.

If a whole slew of alt coins also tried to reserve ports, I suspect that
 may raise eyebrows.


That's somebody else's problem. Bitcoin is by far the most well-known of
the 'coins' so it may be considered realistic to allocate one or two ports
for it. Or not, in which case the altcoins can forget it too.

Regards,
Wladimir
--
Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT 
organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance 
affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your 
Java,.NET,  PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___
Bitcoin-development mailing list
Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development


Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP: register with IANA for bitcoin/cryptocoin port numbers

2014-01-02 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On 3 January 2014 06:22, Troy Benjegerdes ho...@hozed.org wrote:

 I believe this is self-explainatory:

 1) Bitcoin usually runs on port 8333. Why?

 2) Bitcoin does not show in up
 http://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.xhtml..
  why?

 3) What needs to happen to have someone from the Bitcoin foundation
   to fill out the form asking for an assigned port (see
   http://www.iana.org/form/ports-services )

 4) what should the process be for new cryptocoins to get both default
 port numbers, as well as P2P network identifier 'magic numbers'


IANA normally register ports with the principle of conservation in mind.
See section 7.2 of RFC6335 for more details.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6335#section-7.2

8333 and 18333 are currently unassigned, which is good news.

Ideally it would be good to have two ports, one for the main net, and one
for the test net.  However, in light of conservation only one may be
granted.  The question as to whether traffic could be multiplexed over a
single port may be raised.

tnp8321udpThin(ium) Network Protocol
[Aly_Orady][Aly_Orady]
  2007-08-07
 8322-8350Unassigned
server-find8351tcpServer Find
[Chris_Brown]  [Chris_Brown]

gv-pf  18262   udpGV NetConfig Service
[Scott_Libert] [Scott_Libert]
  2008-01-29
18263-18462   Unassigned
ac-cluster 18463   tcpAC Cluster
[Lisa_Zhong]

http://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.txt

If a whole slew of alt coins also tried to reserve ports, I suspect that
may raise eyebrows.




 --
 Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT
 organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance
 affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your
 Java,.NET,  PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics
 Pro!
 http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
 ___
 Bitcoin-development mailing list
 Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development

--
Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT 
organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance 
affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your 
Java,.NET,  PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___
Bitcoin-development mailing list
Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development


Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP: register with IANA for bitcoin/cryptocoin port numbers

2014-01-02 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Troy Benjegerdes ho...@hozed.org wrote:
 I believe this is self-explainatory:

 1) Bitcoin usually runs on port 8333. Why?

 2) Bitcoin does not show in up 
 http://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.xhtml
  .. why?

 3) What needs to happen to have someone from the Bitcoin foundation
   to fill out the form asking for an assigned port (see
   http://www.iana.org/form/ports-services )

I have requested an assignment.

--
Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT 
organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance 
affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your 
Java,.NET,  PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro!
http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
___
Bitcoin-development mailing list
Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development