Re: [Bitcoin-development] Cartographer

2014-12-29 Thread Thomas Zander
On Sunday 28. December 2014 18.25.29 Mike Hearn wrote: Lately we have been bumping up against the limitations of DNS as a protocol for learning about the p2p network. Can you explain further where limitations and problems were hit? -- Thomas Zander

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Cartographer

2014-12-29 Thread Peter Todd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 A big one is the privacy is way too good: every DNS request goes through multiple levels of caching and indirection, so there's no way to figure out who made the request to subject them additional targeting. A connection-oriented protocol gets

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Cartographer

2014-12-29 Thread Mike Hearn
Can you explain further where limitations and problems were hit? Well, look at the feature list :) The biggest need from my POV is querying support. It's awkward to try and retrofit flexible key=value pair queries onto DNS, it just wasn't designed for that. With HTTP it's easy. This will

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Cartographer

2014-12-29 Thread Thomas Zander
On Monday 29. December 2014 11.30.42 Mike Hearn wrote: With the current DNS protocol you get an all or nothing choice Its a seed. Not the protocol itself. Firstly, Peter, get help. I'm serious. I think most would agree with me that, Mike, this answer is not just a little over the line, its

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Cartographer

2014-12-29 Thread Peter Todd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 29 December 2014 12:49:45 CET, Thomas Zander tho...@thomaszander.se wrote: On Monday 29. December 2014 11.30.42 Mike Hearn wrote: With the current DNS protocol you get an all or nothing choice Its a seed. Not the protocol itself. Firstly,

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Cartographer

2014-12-29 Thread Btc Drak
Mike, In all seriousness, are you on the payroll of the NSA or similar to repeatedly attempt to introduce privacy leaks[1] and weaknesses[2] into the ecosystem not to mention logical fallacies like ad hominem attacks; disruption[3] and FUD[4]? Why do you answer objections by hand waving and

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Cartographer

2014-12-29 Thread Mistr Bigs
As an outside observer, I have to say I also found Peter's sardonic message tone inappropriate for furthering the discussion. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and