Re: [Bitcoin-development] Prenumbered BIP naming

2014-05-12 Thread Matt Whitlock
On Monday, 12 May 2014, at 9:53 am, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
 I've noticed some folks struggling to attach labels to their yet to be
 numbered BIPs.
 
 I'd recommend people call them draft-main author name-what it
 does like draft-maxwell-coinburning in the style of pre-WG IETF
 drafts.

Why is there such a high bar to getting a number assigned to a BIP anyway? BIP 
1 seems to suggest that getting a BIP number assigned is no big deal, but the 
reality seems to betray that casual notion. Even proposals with hours of work 
put into them are not getting BIP numbers. It's not exactly as though there's a 
shortage of integers. Are numbers assigned only to proposals that are well 
liked? Isn't the point of assigning numbers so that we can have organized 
discussions about all proposals, even ones we don't like?

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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Prenumbered BIP naming

2014-05-12 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Matt Whitlock b...@mattwhitlock.name wrote:
 Why is there such a high bar to getting a number assigned to a BIP anyway? 
 BIP 1 seems to suggest that getting a BIP number assigned is no big deal, but 
 the reality seems to betray that casual notion. Even proposals with hours of 
 work put into them are not getting BIP numbers. It's not exactly as though 
 there's a shortage of integers. Are numbers assigned only to proposals that 
 are well liked? Isn't the point of assigning numbers so that we can have 
 organized discussions about all proposals, even ones we don't like?

It isn't a big deal, but according to the process numbers shouldn't be
assigned for things that haven't even been publically discussed. If
someone wants to create specifications that are purely the product of
they own work and not a public discussion— they should feel free to do
that, but BIP isn't the process for that.  So, since things need to be
discussed, it can be useful to have something to call a proposal
before other things happen— thats all. The same kind of issue arises
elsewhere.

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