Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7

2017-09-20 Thread Erik Christy
Dear Carol:
I'm sure I join the rest of the list 
membership in sincerely thanking you for having both begun as well as having 
tirelessly and productively having maintained this most beneficial list for all 
blackbelly sheep lovers. Your encouragement and good information helped many of 
us get a good start with this magnificent animal, as well as provided us all 
with an excellent shared medium for discussion and mutual assistance.
While the list will no longer be up, I'm sure our associations made on the list 
will continue.
Thanks very much, again, Carol.
Sincerely,
Erik Christy, Oregon


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> Dear Listserv members,
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> The Blackbelly Listserv was first created in 2001, and it has served 
> a vital role in helping stabilize both the Barbados Blackbelly and 
> American Blackbelly sheep breeds. It has provided a meeting place for 
> a friendly community of breeders to discuss problems, answer 
> questions, and generally provide support to each other.
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> Messages have decreased considerably during the last two years, 
> largely due to newer social media tools such as Facebook that can 
> better serve member needs. This is as it should be---after all, this 
> Listserv was born because in 2001 the only resource available to 
> breeders was a clunky bulletin board.
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> It is time to move on, so I will be shutting the Blackbelly Listserv 
> down on October 1, 2017. You will always be able to search the 
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> It has been a privilege working with the oldtimers who have 
> contributed their time by responding to list messages and the newbies 
> who were courageous enough to ask questions. It has been a joy 
> working with such a great group of friendly and helpful people. We 
> have never had a serious disagreement; no one has ever been flamed or 
> gotten out of line. What a great group of people you are!
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> So my heartfelt thank you to each of the 265 current members in this 
> list. I wish you continued success with your blackbelly sheep. There 
> is no more beautiful sheep in this world than a blackbelly 
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Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 11, Issue 33

2015-07-08 Thread Erik Christy
Hi, Carol,
A very timely ( at least, for me) and helpful reference, Carol.  Thanks very 
much.
Erik

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 My friend Joe over at RaisingSheep.net has put together a good 
 comparison of fencing costs that I thought you might be interested 
 in. Have a look at
 
 http://www.raisingsheep.net/sheep-fencing.html
 
 
 
 Carol Elkins
 Critterhaven
 Pueblo, Colorado
 http://www.critterhaven.biz
 
 
 
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Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 9, Issue 59

2013-10-26 Thread Erik Christy
Carol,
Your link to rotational grazing sends us to an educational Adobe program, but 
there's no reference to rotational gazing.  I wonder if I'm missing something.
Best,
Erik

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 This looks like a really valuable opportunity to learn how to target 
 ethnic markets. To register, click the link at the bottom of the 
 email and then click the Register link on the page that displays. 
 There are four sessions, and session times are 7:00-8:30PM Eastern on 
 November 19, 26, December 3, 10. I'm not sure yet how they plan to 
 provide login information, but I assume they will email attendees in advance.
 
 
 
 Ethnic Marketing of Lamb and Mutton -- An Educational Program for 
 U.S. Sheep Producers
 
 Sheep producers across the country are invited to participate in a 
 four-session webinar series designed to explore the feasibility of 
 marketing lamb and mutton to ethnic consumers.
 
 This educational outreach has been jointly designed by Richard 
 Brzozowski, University of Maine Cooperative Extension, Susan 
 Schoenian, University of Maryland Extension, and Roger High, Ohio 
 State University. It is being made available through a grant from the 
 American Sheep Industry Association's (ASI) Let's Grow initiative to 
 the state sheep associations of Maine, Maryland and Ohio. The series 
 is free to anyone who wishes to participate.
 
 The purpose of this multi-state effort is to equip sheep producers 
 with skills and knowledge for effective marketing of sheep/lamb meat 
 to ethnic communities in their respective market areas.
 
 This outreach will be accomplished via a webinar series and will be 
 supplemented by readings, self-driven activities, assignments and 
 group discussions. Producers are encouraged to participate in each of 
 the four sessions for a complete educational experience.
 
 By the end of the series, webinar participants will be expected to:
 ~Identify lamb consuming ethic populations in their area by 
 performing a demographic analysis of specific ethnicities using 
 census data and other sources.
 ~Learn about the ethnic consumers as well as the specific holy days 
 and holidays when lamb is customarily preferred and the demand for 
 lamb/mutton or specific value-added products is typically high.
 ~Evaluate their production system to determine needed changes in 
 breed(s), carcass size, lambing time and or management to meet this 
 market if deemed feasible.
 ~Adapt or create a marketing plan as a part of a business plan for 
 their sheep operation to include an ethnic component (if appropriate).
 ~Successfully answer an ethnic lamb marketing quiz with a score of at 
 least 80 percent.
 
 Each session will begin at 7 p.m. EST and is scheduled to last 60-90 
 minutes. The schedule is as follows:
 
 Tuesday, Nov. 19 -- Ethnic Market Background
 Tuesday, Nov. 26 -- Understanding the Ethnic Consumer
 Tuesday, Dec. 3 -- Understanding and Evaluating Your Market Options
 Tuesday, Dec. 10 -- Your Marketing Plan
 
 To register for this free series and for more information about 
 specific sessions, instructors and other related information go to 
 http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001z3-em_ByfxkQPTLKta2fkMYv4JuNE6tNSMnMrWg5KsntdYtnE26YFBB1YuooJ9aioLPpOaJOeZxfk7FV3rc7GtheW0HwQ4WEQx0pOVfjVpnhihXxCJPhfWEJSL4pHeA3RMFM7AJlwWDuT8ffL6lu0Q3-2wkwx4po57GstA-NYwbS0h5nP8jwGg==http://umaine.edu/livestock/sheep/ethnic-marketing-of-lamb-and-mutton.
  
 
 
 Carol Elkins
 Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
 (no shear, no dock, no fuss)
 Pueblo, Colorado
 http://www.critterhaven.biz
 
 
 
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[Blackbelly] The noble Marley

2013-10-08 Thread Erik Christy
I'm surprised and saddened the hear talk of executing this noble 
creature rather than continuing to admire and respect him for what he 
has given and the beautiful stature he presents to all who see him.  Is 
this how we repay elegance?


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Today's Topics:

1. Marley's Horn Growth (Michael Smith)
2. Re: Marley's Horn Growth (Mike Hummel)
3. Re: Marley's Horn Growth (Michael Smith)
4. Re: Marley's Horn Growth (Mike Hummel)


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Subject: [Blackbelly] Marley's Horn Growth
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(trying this again in plain text format)

Anyone else got any recent pictures?

My ABB Marley, the freebie ram who started it all for me. He came from
a goat breeder who got him from a vet as a bottle baby, and had no
idea what to do with him, so I got him for free.  Born Feb 2008.

  He does not have the best markings of any of my 5 intact rams, but
man, he has the horns!  Every time I take my eye off him, those horns
seem to have grown more. I've had one intact son and one grandson from
him and their horn spread is not nearly as wide as his. They might
have a good amount of total curl, but not a wide spread rack like his.
He has two other grandsons who had weak ABB markings that are
weathers.

http://mwsmith.smugmug.com/Animals/rams2013/32364864_kz9mSW#!i=2817598743k=2zCmvtG

enjoy

normally, I might consider taxidermy to be a morbid way to keep an old
pet, but in his case, I might make an exception.

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.


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Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 10:04:35 -0400
From: Mike Hummel m...@soggytopfarm.com
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What a set of horns, makes me wonder if he is pure ABB.  If you want to
find out what is worth, contact one of the many game preserves.  They
will pay you big bucks to let some city slicker shoot him.

On 10/7/2013 9:19 PM, Michael Smith wrote:

(trying this again in plain text format)

Anyone else got any recent pictures?

My ABB Marley, the freebie ram who started it all for me. He came from
a goat breeder who got him from a vet as a bottle baby, and had no
idea what to do with him, so I got him for free.  Born Feb 2008.

   He does not have the best markings of any of my 5 intact rams, but
man, he has the horns!  Every time I take my eye off him, those horns
seem to have grown more. I've had one intact son and one grandson from
him and their horn spread is not nearly as wide as his. They might
have a good amount of total curl, but not a wide spread rack like his.
He has two other grandsons who had weak ABB markings that are
weathers.

http://mwsmith.smugmug.com/Animals/rams2013/32364864_kz9mSW#!i=2817598743k=2zCmvtG

enjoy

normally, I might consider taxidermy to be a morbid way to keep an old
pet, but in his case, I might make an exception.

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies.
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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 07:54:36 -0700
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well, what is pure ABB, anyway?

but I agree, he'd make a great trophy. As for his heritage, his markings are 
more troublesome to me than his horns.  There's no pictures of it, but when he 
sheds, he has almost no black necktie. Only gets that marking when his ruff 
grows out. also has very small eyebrows. And his coat is not that red, more 
tan. Other than that he has a fine black belly, and no white sock markings or