I just kind of jumped into this today.  Regarding castrating lambs. 

 I, like Natasha,  do not like to have to separate my male from female lambs.  
If the ram lambs are not RR or good enough to be breeders, I get them 
castrated.  I have my vet do it.  She recommends that they be castrated between 
3-7 days, as it is less painful for them.  There was a study done on cattle, 
somewhere I guess, regarding this issue. 

She will not band the lamb, if the mother has not received CD&T within a month 
of birth.  She recommends cutting instead, if not vaccinated.  The banding 
leads to rotting off of the necrotic(dead no blood supply) testicles, and could 
lead to infection. And enterotoxemia.

I bring the lambs to her and she only charges me $2 per lamb to castrate by 
cutting.  She also gives them a nerve block prior(shot).  I have not had any 
trouble with the lambs.  We banded one lamb once, and he was uncomfortable for 
awhile, and my husband said if he had to be castrated, he would want it quick 
and not have to wait for them to rot off.

Just my take on castration.  Oh, I always vaccinate my ewes prior to breeding 
and 1 month prior to lambing. For the tetanus.  Tetanus is a bacteria in the 
soil, and all animals are susceptible to this is they get a cut or what ever. I 
know that most of you advertise no vaccinations, but that is why I do it.
  
Liz Radi
Nubian goats and Katahdin Hair Sheep
Nunn, Colorado
970-716-7218
idaralpaca.blogspot.com

--- meadowskuv...@gmail.com wrote:

From: "R. Natasha Baronas" <meadowskuv...@gmail.com>
To: "blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info"     
<blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Fading lamb
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 07:24:59 -0700

Thanks Carol.  I have a few extra things to add for consideration.  I know that 
I won't have a definitive answer but I want to throw some of this out there.

This is the first time I've ever castrated.  I have a very small flock - five 
ewes.  I have grown tired of separating the ram lambs from the ewe lambs as my 
fenced areas are smaller than I'd like.  I like seeing them all run together so 
I thought I'd castrate.  Next time I won't castrate so young.  The other fellas 
were a week old and strong, this guy was still little.

The night before castration I was awakened by the sound of very close by foxes. 
 I have livestock guardian dogs.  One female is just under two and pretty solid 
but still immature.  I haven't kept her in with the sheep at night, only once 
in awhile.  So at 4:00 am I got up to check the sheep.  The foxes were close 
and the dogs were barking.  I put my dog in with the sheep.  We have lots of 
snow here that is now hard and crusty and the animals can run on top of it to 
get around leaving my flock vulnerable.  That morning was when I noticed the 
nick on the ram's head.  Now I'm all worried that it was my dog who did this.  
But if the ram had neurological issues from a snap from the dog wouldn't they 
have manifested themselves right away?  I have a hard time believing she did 
this as she will carefully lay among the sheep during the days while 
supervised.  However, how does a two day old lamb get a nick?  This leads me to 
my next point...don't castrate unless the lamb is 100%.  He 
 appeared fine that day but why stress him out with another procedure?

Last thing to consider.  This first time ewe has four nipples instead of two.  
Normally you'd probably not keep that but I liked her conformation and her 
lines throw some nice lambs.  She's really skittish but I managed to express 
milk from two on the same side so I know her plumbing is working.  If she is a 
little different - could that impact her lambs?

I can't change what happened but for my remaining two ewes who have to deliver 
I will ensure that they have their own space to lamb and be apart from the rest 
of the flock as to avoid unfortunate accidents.  Thanks for your input.

Natasha
British Columbia, Canada 

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>  Do not beat yourself up; simply learn.
> 
> The only thing that occurred to me from reading your email is wondering if 
> perhaps it might be unnecessary to castrate your ram lambs. That would reduce 
> the amount of trauma that they have to go through, especially so soon after 
> birth. 
> It never gets easier. Don't let anyone tell you that it does.
> 
> Carol
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