Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas
Yes, I just cut a slit in the pipe lengthwise and slid it over the top rail or the top of the wire mesh fence. It works even better if you can suspend it just above the fence top where it can roll, but you have to make sure it can't be pushed up and the animal climb underneath it. Best Wishes, Jann Mountain Ridge Ranch and KayaKyi Kennels American Blackbelly Sheep Tibetan Mastiffs PBGVs and GBGVs mrr.mysite.com https://www.facebook.com/KayakyiPBGVsAndGBGVs AKC Breeder of Merit -Original Message- From: elaine_wilson elaine_wil...@earthlink.net To: Blackbelly Newsletter blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info; mtnrdgrnch mtnrdgr...@aol.com Sent: Sun, May 11, 2014 6:15 pm Subject: Re: Anti coyote fence ideas Hi Jann, Yes, would love for you to further elaborate on the 4 pvc pipe on the top of the fence. Did you just cut a slit in one side and just slide it over the top horizontal? Did you do anything to secure it further? Elaine Message: 2 Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 12:21:47 -0600 From: Jann Bach mtnrdgr...@aol.com To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Cc: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas Message-ID: 39787586-218a-4c26-b081-857d77bc6...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I put a 4 pvc pipe on the top of the fence. Makes it nearly impossible to scale as they have no traction to grab the top of the fence. I can further elaborate if anyone is interested. Jann --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas
(re-senmding this message. Carol was not sure if it went through) Ah, the roller fence. I saw some examples of this as well..definitely effective on domestics dogs, would be interesting to see if it actually works on coyotes. http://www.coyoteroller.com Looks very interesting and less ugly than the angled prison fencing I have been I thinking about. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/2008-08-01_No_Tresspassing_sign_at_RDU.jpg -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:48 PM, elaine_wil...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Jann, Yes, would love for you to further elaborate on the 4 pvc pipe on the top of the fence. Did you just cut a slit in one side and just slide it over the top horizontal? Did you do anything to secure it further? Elaine Message: 2 Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 12:21:47 -0600 From: Jann Bach mtnrdgr...@aol.com To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Cc: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas Message-ID: 39787586-218a-4c26-b081-857d77bc6...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I put a 4 pvc pipe on the top of the fence. Makes it nearly impossible to scale as they have no traction to grab the top of the fence. I can further elaborate if anyone is interested. Jann --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas
I saw a picture of this on facebook. But it was made with pvc. Would probably be more cost effective. Anyway, I put it on my fb page. under Liz Whalen Radi Liz Radi Nubian goats and Katahdin Hair Sheep Nunn, Colorado 970-716-7218 idaralpaca.blogspot.com --- mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Smith mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com To: blackbelly blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 10:13:50 -0700 (re-senmding this message. Carol was not sure if it went through) Ah, the roller fence. I saw some examples of this as well..definitely effective on domestics dogs, would be interesting to see if it actually works on coyotes. http://www.coyoteroller.com Looks very interesting and less ugly than the angled prison fencing I have been I thinking about. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/2008-08-01_No_Tresspassing_sign_at_RDU.jpg -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:48 PM, elaine_wil...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Jann, Yes, would love for you to further elaborate on the 4 pvc pipe on the top of the fence. Did you just cut a slit in one side and just slide it over the top horizontal? Did you do anything to secure it further? Elaine Message: 2 Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 12:21:47 -0600 From: Jann Bach mtnrdgr...@aol.com To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Cc: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas Message-ID: 39787586-218a-4c26-b081-857d77bc6...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I put a 4 pvc pipe on the top of the fence. Makes it nearly impossible to scale as they have no traction to grab the top of the fence. I can further elaborate if anyone is interested. Jann --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas
here's the really good home-spun solution I was thinking about. Two sizes of PVC pipe, and some strong wire. They don't show this, but I was thinking, you could maybe even attach bells or noise-makers to it. Coyote rolls it, makes alarm noise, dogs alerted. http://www.huskycamp.com/security.htm The only thing to consider is: PVC is meant to be installed under ground and does not do all that well with UV rays. It would take years, but eventually need replacing. http://www.jmeagle.com/pdfs/Technical%20Bulletins/TB10SunlightEffectsonPVC.pdf -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Elizabeth Radi lizr...@skybeam.com wrote: I saw a picture of this on facebook. But it was made with pvc. Would probably be more cost effective. Anyway, I put it on my fb page. under Liz Whalen Radi Liz Radi Nubian goats and Katahdin Hair Sheep Nunn, Colorado 970-716-7218 idaralpaca.blogspot.com --- mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Smith mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com To: blackbelly blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 10:13:50 -0700 (re-senmding this message. Carol was not sure if it went through) Ah, the roller fence. I saw some examples of this as well..definitely effective on domestics dogs, would be interesting to see if it actually works on coyotes. http://www.coyoteroller.com Looks very interesting and less ugly than the angled prison fencing I have been I thinking about. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/2008-08-01_No_Tresspassing_sign_at_RDU.jpg -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:48 PM, elaine_wil...@earthlink.net wrote: Hi Jann, Yes, would love for you to further elaborate on the 4 pvc pipe on the top of the fence. Did you just cut a slit in one side and just slide it over the top horizontal? Did you do anything to secure it further? Elaine Message: 2 Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 12:21:47 -0600 From: Jann Bach mtnrdgr...@aol.com To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Cc: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas Message-ID: 39787586-218a-4c26-b081-857d77bc6...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I put a 4 pvc pipe on the top of the fence. Makes it nearly impossible to scale as they have no traction to grab the top of the fence. I can further elaborate if anyone is interested. Jann --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas
Hi Jann, Yes, would love for you to further elaborate on the 4 pvc pipe on the top of the fence. Did you just cut a slit in one side and just slide it over the top horizontal? Did you do anything to secure it further? Elaine Message: 2 Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 12:21:47 -0600 From: Jann Bach mtnrdgr...@aol.com To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Cc: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas Message-ID: 39787586-218a-4c26-b081-857d77bc6...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I put a 4 pvc pipe on the top of the fence. Makes it nearly impossible to scale as they have no traction to grab the top of the fence. I can further elaborate if anyone is interested. Jann --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas
I put a 4 pvc pipe on the top of the fence. Makes it nearly impossible to scale as they have no traction to grab the top of the fence. I can further elaborate if anyone is interested. Jann Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Michael Smith mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com wrote: I finally saw it as some list-members described: a full grown coyote run up to my 4.5 foot tall fence and just scale it. It was last night after a previous night coyote attack that killed my two beloved miniature Pygmy goats and harmed my toe other pygmys. The sheep were unscathed. I know lessons in shepherding are hard-earned and I had been thinking about coyotes considering last years June attack. This year I thought I was being safer. Had the animals in the central pasture--which has no holes in the fence, the dog was in the pasture next door. I had been letting her in with the ewes and goats at night, but stopped doing it, since I have two ewes in a paddock that are ready to lamb and I was trying to not stress them out too much. That was a mistake. So, after cleaning up the mess yesterday and figuring out one goat has a limp and the other has a partially paralyzed tongue, I decided to move Sheila, our dog's home, permanently with the ewes and goats. I have one of those 1000 candle LED flashlights (which, while costing around $80-100, I highly recommend--they go forever and look like daylight ) and went out around 10pm as I had also at 9:00 and 9:30. This time, I was just in time to hear Sheila growl and see a fully grown coyote lope up to the fence and use just a few steps to scale it and hop over. Will simply making the fence straight and higher help? Or I was thinking of doing something like prison fencing where the fence angles at a 45 degree up higher and makes it so a climbing coyote would be almost upside down at the top. http://wolfdogproject.com/fence/leanin2.jpg Seems easier and safer than an electrical system along the top edge, which I am thinking the coyotes might not mind a shock, if there's a good meal Having the dog in there will certainly help, and I plan to try to lock the animals in the smaller gated paddocks at night and also, amend their paddock fencing so they go to the roof. Basically a box, for sleeping in. The other question, can people with a single burro or llama actually claim they have never sustained an attack after getting the larger animal? -MIchael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies Sent from my iPad ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Anti coyote fence ideas
Our fence is 48 Bekaert high tensile field fence, with a row of barbed wire 3-4 above that. On the same posts (on perimeter fencing) we run a hot wire 7 from the ground, powered by a high quality fence energizer. We have bungy gates at each gate. In the last 3-4 years, we've only lost two lambs (since we added the hot perimeter wire). We often hear the coyotes contact the wire while trying to go under the fence. We have a pile of coyotes (sometimes literally). Two years ago, I killed over 70 on my quarter section alone. Doug Noyes On May 4, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Michael Smith mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com wrote: I finally saw it as some list-members described: a full grown coyote run up to my 4.5 foot tall fence and just scale it. It was last night after a previous night coyote attack that killed my two beloved miniature Pygmy goats and harmed my toe other pygmys. The sheep were unscathed. I know lessons in shepherding are hard-earned and I had been thinking about coyotes considering last years June attack. This year I thought I was being safer. Had the animals in the central pasture--which has no holes in the fence, the dog was in the pasture next door. I had been letting her in with the ewes and goats at night, but stopped doing it, since I have two ewes in a paddock that are ready to lamb and I was trying to not stress them out too much. That was a mistake. So, after cleaning up the mess yesterday and figuring out one goat has a limp and the other has a partially paralyzed tongue, I decided to move Sheila, our dog's home, permanently with the ewes and goats. I have one of those 1000 candle LED flashlights (which, while costing around $80-100, I highly recommend--they go forever and look like daylight ) and went out around 10pm as I had also at 9:00 and 9:30. This time, I was just in time to hear Sheila growl and see a fully grown coyote lope up to the fence and use just a few steps to scale it and hop over. Will simply making the fence straight and higher help? Or I was thinking of doing something like prison fencing where the fence angles at a 45 degree up higher and makes it so a climbing coyote would be almost upside down at the top. http://wolfdogproject.com/fence/leanin2.jpg Seems easier and safer than an electrical system along the top edge, which I am thinking the coyotes might not mind a shock, if there's a good meal Having the dog in there will certainly help, and I plan to try to lock the animals in the smaller gated paddocks at night and also, amend their paddock fencing so they go to the roof. Basically a box, for sleeping in. The other question, can people with a single burro or llama actually claim they have never sustained an attack after getting the larger animal? -MIchael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies Sent from my iPad ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
