On 29 April 2018 at 01:19, Ken Moffat <zarniwh...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 09:55:45PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > On 04/27/2018 08:08 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: > > > Looking at the sed in colord, I question its usefulness. Sure, > > > without it ninja produces the warnings, regarding fur as an invalid > > > country code, but labelling what is friulian (a language, or dialect > > > depending on your point of view) of Italy as Urdu seems unuseful. > > > > > > Now, quite why something is looking for _country_ codes when it > > > should be looking for _language_ codes I do not understand. > > > > > > Raised upstream, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106288 > > > > You are much more knowledgeable about that than I am. I thought it was a > > typo. I never heard of friulian before. > > > > -- Bruce > > Well, you might have heard of it under a slightly different name (I > looked at wikipedia earlier, but I forget what that name was). > Friulian is what we Brits call it. And technically it isn't a > dialect of Italian (it has Rhaeto-Romanic antecedents). But ever > since I spent holidays in the alps, I've been fascinated by the > different languages and the way that speech in alpine regions can > vary even over very short distances (presumably because they used to > be cut off from each other for much of the year). > > Unfortunately, the 'country' label is a red herring - the problem is > that the spec for ICC profiles includes two bytes for the language > (ISO-639-1) but other languages covered by -2 or -3 need three > bytes. > > I haven't built it without the sed yet, and I'm not sure what will > result. Hopefully I'll at least remember to install all locales on > my next build. > Let me start by saying that this has nothing to do with the bug, but I was intrigued by Ken's description of languages in the Alps, of which, like Bruce, I knew nothing. Coincidently (or maybe not, considering how data is exchanged these days) I received a post from Quora this morning asking "when did Italy start speaking one language?". I'm posting the answer by Riccardo Sciolti here because I thought that others may be as surprised, and interested, as I am:- "Italy, unknown to most, possibly has the richest linguistic diversity in the whole EU. It is also on the forefront of minority language protection. Actual LANGUAGES spoken (and partly protected by law) in Italy include: - Italian (obviously) - German (in South Tyrol) - French (in Valle d'Aosta) - Occitanic (in Western Piedmont valleys) - Catalan (in Alghero, Sardinia) - Sardinian (a language, not a dialect) - Friulian (a language, not a dialect) - Slovenian (in selected towns and villages near Trieste) - Ladin (a Romance language, also spoken in Swiss Grisons — few valleys in South Tyrol) - Cymbric (an old Teutonic dialect, few villages in Central Alps) - Greek (in three villages in Apulia) - Albanian (in fairly large, scattered communities in Molise, Calabria and Sicily— these are the descendants of the Christian army who fled Albania in the 16th Century, after being defeated by the Turks) - Rhaesian, a slavic dialect in a specific valley on Friulian Alps - Walser or Titsch (a Germanic dialect in Valle d'Aosta)" Richard
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