Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 09:26:58PM +, Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2018 at 11:54:12AM -0600, Douglas R. Reno wrote: > > > >In my opinion, you guys should have a team of 2 or 3 testers that rebuild > >the book often, and test updates/workarounds on existing systems. > > At one

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Mar 03, 2018 at 11:54:12AM -0600, Douglas R. Reno wrote: > >In my opinion, you guys should have a team of 2 or 3 testers that rebuild >the book often, and test updates/workarounds on existing systems. At one time we had an LFS test time (led by Ryan), but that was many years ago

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-05 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Mar 03, 2018 at 01:02:27PM +0100, Pierre Labastie wrote: > Hi, > > Now that 8.2 is out, I'd like to share some thoughts about testing the book > instructions (OK, QA in the subject may be slightly too ambitious). > [...] just replying to a few points > > - change our update policy so

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-04 Thread Tim Tassonis
On 03/04/2018 07:26 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Thomas Trepl wrote: Another example is creating users for some packages. It is not required to have the user postfix on the building system, the user should be there on the system where postfix gets installed. So, the user postfix is a requirement

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Thomas Trepl wrote: Another example is creating users for some packages. It is not required to have the user postfix on the building system, the user should be there on the system where postfix gets installed. So, the user postfix is a requirement in the install phase which might occur on very

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-04 Thread Richard Melville
On 4 March 2018 at 02:11, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > I have run into that with the package currency scripts. About 65% of the > packages can be automated quite easily, but the other third require a > custom procedure for each package. Look at just package names for >

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-04 Thread Thomas Trepl
Am Samstag, den 03.03.2018, 13:02 +0100 schrieb Pierre Labastie: > Hi, > > Now that 8.2 is out, I'd like to share some thoughts about testing > the book > instructions (OK, QA in the subject may be slightly too ambitious). > > We (mainly Bruce) have updated an average of 4 packages per day >

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-03 Thread Tim Tassonis
On 03/03/2018 09:46 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Tim Tassonis wrote: On 03/03/2018 04:41 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Tim Tassonis wrote: I volunteer as an editor. I have already written to Ken and Bruce about it, but first had to do a full fresh 8.2 install. Now that that's done, I'm fully ready

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Tim Tassonis wrote: On 03/03/2018 04:41 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Tim Tassonis wrote: I volunteer as an editor. I have already written to Ken and Bruce about it, but first had to do a full fresh 8.2 install. Now that that's done, I'm fully ready for it. Tim,    Have you read the editor's

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-03 Thread Tim Tassonis
On 03/03/2018 04:41 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Tim Tassonis wrote: I volunteer as an editor. I have already written to Ken and Bruce about it, but first had to do a full fresh 8.2 install. Now that that's done, I'm fully ready for it. Tim,   Have you read the editor's guide?

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-03 Thread Douglas R. Reno
On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 6:02 AM, Pierre Labastie wrote: > Hi, > > Now that 8.2 is out, I'd like to share some thoughts about testing the book > instructions (OK, QA in the subject may be slightly too ambitious). > > We (mainly Bruce) have updated an average of 4 packages

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-03 Thread Alain Toussaint
> - automate testing: run jhalfs (2) builds on a regular basis, for all or some > packages in BLFS (including all recommended dependencies). That would at least > detect (c), (d), and (f) sooner. I can run jhalfs on a regular basis. Also, regarding new packages releases, I can monitor these by

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Tim Tassonis wrote: I volunteer as an editor. I have already written to Ken and Bruce about it, but first had to do a full fresh 8.2 install. Now that that's done, I'm fully ready for it. Tim, Have you read the editor's guide? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/edguide/ It's a bit

Re: [blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-03 Thread Tim Tassonis
On March 3, 2018 13:16:55 Pierre Labastie wrote: Hi, Now that 8.2 is out, I'd like to share some thoughts about testing the book instructions (OK, QA in the subject may be slightly too ambitious). We (mainly Bruce) have updated an average of 4 packages per day

[blfs-dev] QA in BLFS

2018-03-03 Thread Pierre Labastie
Hi, Now that 8.2 is out, I'd like to share some thoughts about testing the book instructions (OK, QA in the subject may be slightly too ambitious). We (mainly Bruce) have updated an average of 4 packages per day between September 2nd, 2017 and the release of 8.2 (1). At such a pace, it is very