Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/22/05 11:23 CST: I read the thread that Jack gave and Gerard wants to keep the links in both places: /usr/lib because they are needed and /lib for consistency. After all, this is primarily an LFS issue and only marginally a BLFS issue

Re: Linux-PAM nitpicks

2005-02-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: I think the following example is going to clarify this finally for you: There are no .so files in /lib for Readline and Shadow. There is for PAM. This is what I've been trying to say all along. Additionally, the PAM .so files are in *both* directories. They are not for

Re: wrong description

2005-02-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Giulio Daprelà wrote: In the file /kde/core/kdebase.xml at line 163 and following i found this description: termcommandkdeprint/command/term listitem parais a dialog box for managing diagnostic messages at runtime./para Maybe is better the one from the KDE website, like: KDEPrint is the

Re: HTML Tidy Patch

2005-03-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
M.Canales.es wrote: That patch fix a look issue for verbatim enviroments, that affect some browsers (like Mozilla), when the pages are served like application/xhtml+xml. By default, pre tags are indented like: [pre class=userinput][kbd class=command]./configure --prefix=/usr[/kbd]

Re: HTML Tidy Patch

2005-03-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
M.Canales.es wrote: That patch fix a look issue for verbatim enviroments, that affect some browsers (like Mozilla), when the pages are served like application/xhtml+xml. By default, pre tags are indented like: [pre class=userinput][kbd class=command]./configure --prefix=/usr[/kbd]

livecd on ftp sites

2005-03-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I just updated BLFS to point to the livecd at ftp.linuxfromscratch.org and was promptly told that it was a dead link. Looking at the dns records, we have four ftp sites. The livecd is only on two and then in different directories. I'm repointing BLFS to anduin until the ftp sites can

Re: livecd on ftp sites

2005-03-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Utley wrote: btw...has Anduin been added to the RR-DNS rotation yet? Not yet. I still want to touch up some security issues and I still need to put rsync on the system. Also, I don't know if the ftp mirrors are going to mirror everything. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /srv/ftp]$ du -sh * 1.5G

Re: dhcp - bug 1211

2005-03-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/07/05 18:21 CST: You think the existing text that explains that the IPRoute2 patch is only necessary if you don't want to install Net-Tools isn't adequate? Disregard my comment about this. It was a last minute add on and I didn't reread

Re: Linux-PAM

2005-03-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Funny how some things work out. The BLFS book was just recently changed to make cracklib a required dependency of Linux-PAM. I didn't think too much about it. However, tonight I screwed up and forgot to install cracklib before installing Linux-PAM. And PAM installed just

Re: Linux-PAM

2005-03-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/12/05 22:29 CST: Why don't you just change it to a recommended dependency? Good idea. The only reason I BZ'd it was so that I didn't forget to do it. I'll be making many BLFS updates tomorrow. All of the ones I have assigned to me

Re: Update tar commands

2005-03-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Edwin van Vliet wrote: Anyway, even for the old experienced linux users it is nice to know: just use tar -xf of tar -xvf for *ANY* .tar.gz, .tar.bz2 or .tar archive =) OK. I'll Bugzilla this for the next release. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: Linux-PAM man pages

2005-03-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: Confirmed. Looks like we can do a sed to fix it though. I don't really have the time right now, but I took a quick peek anyway. The only place where this could be coming from is mandir=$PREFIX/man. Using 'mandir' instead of 'MANDIR'. Only place I can see this coming from is

Re: $rc_base/init.d/iptables instead of $rc_base/rc.iptables ?

2005-03-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jiri Navratil wrote: Instructions on http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/cvs/postlfs/firewall.html are inconsistent about the script name - cat /etc/rc.d/rc.iptables EOF - /etc/rc.d/init.d/iptables Is my understanding, that the cat commands shall be changed to cat

Re: xinetd patch and as related to others - Version 2

2005-03-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
John Gnew wrote: If everyone is comfortable with this patch, could someone please apply it? John, I'm fairly busy until Thursday night, but I'll take a look then. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe:

Re: Iptables/Firewall

2005-04-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: In response to a post on BLFS support I looked at the pages in my current version of BLFS (svn-20050331) and I can't see where it says to install the iptables bootscript. Is it just me, or is this a bug in the book? Yes. It is a bug that I will fix soon. Whilst I'm here

Re: DocBook XSL Stylesheets

2005-04-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
M.Canales.es wrote: I'm thinking also in offer my work and time, after the above will be finished, to the BLFS Team as XML/XSL editor to speed-up the current and future XML/XSL changes and to standarize the tagging between the different pages (based on some guidelines that should be decided by

6.0 branch is closed

2005-04-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Editors, Please do not make ANY changes to the 6.0 branch without checking with me first. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Error in firewalling?

2005-04-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Giulio Daprelà wrote: In the file /postlfs/security/firewalling.xml ther is the following sentence: To provide the maximum security for the firewall itself, make sure that there are no unnecessary servers running on it such as X11 et al. My english is not very strong, but i don't understand if

Re: Addition to Chapter 25 - X window System Environment

2005-04-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
kevlinux wrote: I would like to suggest a comment in the referenced section, maybe in the Edit xorg.conf.new to suit your system area, regarding getting your wheel mouse working. Specifically, to add: Option ZAxis Mapping 4 5 in the InputDevice section. Probably a good idea, but the wrong list.

Re: Addition to Chapter 25 - X window System Environment

2005-04-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: But where to put it? I'm looking at the source for the configuring x page, and there is not a logical place for it. Maybe a new sub-section for tweaking the x-config file defaults? Looking now, I think it's always kinda lacked in that area. It's just second nature to tweak the

Re: Addition to Chapter 25 - X window System Environment

2005-04-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: This has turned into a bit more than the original suggestion of z axis for the mouse. :-) In time it certainly sounds good, but in the interim, would an additional heading on the X Windows System Components page, Additional Configuration and A brief paragraph on what to find at

Re: Guile

2005-04-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 04/11/05 10:35 CST: Hi all, I would like to move the Guile instructions to what I feel is a more proper category, the Programming section. Since there is a command interpreter, I agree. I'm not familiar with guile or scheme, but a

Re: Guile

2005-04-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 04/11/05 12:23 CST: excerpt from: http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/blfs-dev/2004-June/006401.html Sounds like we are in violent agreement. I'll try to do the reorg tonight. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs

Re: Book Reorganization

2005-04-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Jeremy Utley wrote these words on 04/12/05 23:23 CST: Alphabetical serves no useful purpose, when it contradicts the proper build order. At least that's my opinion, anyway. We can go back to the other order, but I put those sections in alpha order because of a problem I was

Re: kdebase-3.4.0

2005-04-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Robert Connolly wrote: On April 14, 2005 02:47 am, Robert Connolly wrote: Hi. I noticed kdebase-3.4.0 installs ksysguarddrc and xdg/ to /usr/etc.. so it looks like --sysconfdir=/etc is needed for this package. xdg/ is from kdelibs, so --sysconfdir=/etc would be needed there too. Thanks for the

Re: Book Reorganization

2005-04-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Utley wrote: Here's how I solve that when following the BLFS book...keep in mind this is only one solution out of many possibilities, but this works quite well for me. Jeremy, What you are describing is a depth first search. That's what I do also. My technique is a little more

Re: Acrobat 7

2005-04-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jamie Bennett wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 14:08 -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Just to try it out, I donloaded a copy of Acrobat Reader 7 for Linux and installed it. On my LFS 6.1 testing system it flashes the splash screen and exits without any error messages of any kind. ldd on the binary does

Re: Acrobat 7

2005-04-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: I know this doesn't help any, just wanted to throw in the mention that Xpdf seems to be *much* faster than the Adobe product. Yes, I know, but I was just trying it out. Also acroread5 provides some additional functionaliy over xpdf or gsview. It adds a nice toc on the

Re: Acrobat 7

2005-04-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jrg Billeter wrote: Some plugins of Acrobat 7 need libstdc++.so.5, i.e. the standard c++ library coming with gcc 3.3. So either install it or remove the Reader/intellinux/plug_ins directory... Renaming the plugins directory worked. I may consider installing libstdc++.so.5 in the future, but I've

Re: SBUs

2005-04-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 04/14/05 17:24 CST: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 04/14/05 17:08 CST: Estimated build time: 0.1 SBU To me, the *lack* of precision in this example is much more misleading that what we have now. Let's say for the sake of roundness

libmikmod-3.1.11

2005-04-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
There is a patch to this package to bring it up to libmikmod-3.1.11a. The books's sed: sed -i -e s/VERSION=10/VERSION=11/ \ -e s/sys_asoundlib/alsa_asoundlib/ \ -e s/snd_cards/snd_card_load/g \ -e s|sys/asoundlib.h|alsa/asoundlib.h|g \ configure.in looks like it is still

kde gl screensavers

2005-04-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've been working on kde 3.4 and am doing some testing. In order to get the GL screensavers to work, I had to install Mesa from http://mesa3d.sourceforge.net/ It is not a hard install, but it installs the follwing libraries: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Apr 16 22:54 libGL.so - libGL.so.1

Re: kde gl screensavers

2005-04-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Utley wrote: Having the Mesa 3d libs installed will break hardware 3D-rendering always - whether it be DRI-based, NVIDIA drivers, or ATI's FireGL drivers. People will be limited to software 3d rendering. Thanks Jeremy. I can confirm that with the mesa libraries installed I get 635

Re: kde gl screensavers

2005-04-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Utley wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: Jeremy Utley wrote: Having the Mesa 3d libs installed will break hardware 3D-rendering always - whether it be DRI-based, NVIDIA drivers, or ATI's FireGL drivers. People will be limited to software 3d rendering. Thanks Jeremy. I can confirm

Re: Heads up - gcc-4.0

2005-04-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: If you've any problems with the approach above, let me know. No. Your approach seems great. We don't get dunned with gcc-4.0 issues and both lfs and blfs get appropriate input. Thanks for the heads up. -- Bruce --

Re: LessTif - A Window Manager?

2005-04-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: The primary objectives have been to develop the widget code of the LessTif Toolkit. Intermittently, the window manager (mwm) and the combination of UIL compiler and libMrm are being worked on. I agree with Matt. In this case the primary purpose of the package is as a

libgnomeprint instructions

2005-04-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I'm trying to install libgnomeprint-2.8.0.1. As a prereq for gnumeric. I have not installed gnome. The instructions say: ./configure --prefix=`pkg-config --variable=prefix ORBit-2.0` \ --sysconfdir=/etc/gnome --disable-gtk-doc But ORBit-2.0 is not listed as a dependency. When I execute:

Re: libgnomeprint instructions

2005-04-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Actually, the instructions say that libgnomeprintui, not libgnomeprint is the dependency. Yes but libgnomeprintui has a required dependency of libgnomeprint. There is a huge difference here. Much of GNOME will need to be installed to satisfy the dependency. Perhaps.

Re: libgnomeprint instructions

2005-04-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: it probably doesn't need an immediate fix. Agreed. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: users/groups

2005-04-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Archaic wrote: On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 08:52:05PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Why do something different for those? Just trying to get a feel for the issues at hand. ISTM that to buck historical use because obscure or highly specialized (liveCD) fs's might not like them is odd. Also

Re: JDK-1.5.0

2005-04-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: 3. It seems to be an interaction issue between KDE and OO that may well show up with our build. I was just asking if someone else had seen it. So I did miss the point to some extent! ;-) To be honest I don't use KDE. I do have it installed

nfs-utils

2005-04-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I just ran into a problem I want to clarify. When using nfs mounted partitions as a client, the options in fstab need to have a _netdev parameter set or you get a failure in the mountfs bootscript. In the nfs-client bootscript, remote nfs partitions need to be actually mounted: mount -a -t

Re: [Bug 1013] Qt build method 1 installs files with wrong permissions

2005-04-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Makefiles have: COPY = install COPY_FILE= $(COPY) COPY_DIR = $(COPY) -r INSTALL_FILE= $(COPY_FILE) INSTALL_DIR = $(COPY_DIR) This is due to line 1 of the sed which we apply to mkspecs/linux*/qmake.conf. You *were* testing this on a *Linux* system,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Some questions to can start my work (long)]

2005-04-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
M.Canales.es wrote: Inside the tarball there is three file: a full commented template.xml, and allmost full rewrite of chapter06.xml and chapter07 with some modifications to the Adding tags section. I haven't had time to look at the editor's guide, but I did look at the template. It looks

Re: [Fwd: Re: nfs-utils]

2005-04-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: Bruce, the goal in mind at the time was to avoid changing the script as more network filesystems were added (coda, cifs, and afs (andrew???) IIRC). This is really not a big issue as I don't see a lot of new network types floating around out there in the world, but simply

More on UIDs

2005-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
In the book, we create a lot of users and groups. Almost none of them have uids/gids specified. Right now, if a user/group is created without specifying, a uid value 1000 or a gid value 100 is used. The LSB says system uids/gids should be below 100. I am proposing a book wide coordinated

Re: UID issue

2005-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 04/21/05 07:23 CST: I'm just curious what causes this, whether it's a 2.6.x issue or a ps issue. Belgarath which runs a 2.4 kernel and procps 3.1.8 doesn't seem to have this problem. My username is longer than 8 characters and it

Re: UID issue

2005-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote: The kernel version has nothing to do with the display of usernames. It doesn't even know about usernames--only uids and gids. It has to be in the ls/ps code. That makes sense. Might shadow have an effect on this as well

Re: UID issue

2005-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: I just did an experiment. I created a user 'averylongname' and ps does indeed change this to a number, but ls -l adjusts the column width to accomodate the long name. Investigating... Investiation complete. The following comment is in the procps source at line 1018 of ps

Re: More on UIDs

2005-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Utley wrote: In the book, we create a lot of users and groups. Almost none of them have uids/gids specified. Right now, if a user/group is created without specifying, a uid value 1000 or a gid value 100 is used. The LSB says system uids/gids should be below 100. I am proposing a book

Re: More on UIDs/Permissions

2005-04-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Utley wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: Not a bad idea, but we have several ftp and email servers. I thought about using the same number for all the ftp servers and the same numbers of all the mail servers, but that would make the different packages conflict. They're going to conflict

Re: LFS IPsec

2005-04-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dirk Kleinschmidt wrote: Hello everyone, I just wrote a small hint on implementing IPsec in LFS 6.1. It's available for download at www.vinf.de/dirk. If requested here, I'll publish a LFS-hints-compilant text file also. Do you guys have any comments about the hint? This looks very nice.

Re: r3771 - trunk/edguide

2005-04-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 04/22/05 12:16 CST: Also, I need to write up the rationale for the zone attribte. For all the index entries except the first, we use a range with the start of the range as the beginning of the section. What this does is create a pointer

Re: r3771 - trunk/edguide

2005-04-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
M.Canales.es wrote: A link to the actual program/libary description or to the configuration steps for configuring files without the need to scroll-down the full package page. Got it. My misunderstanding. There is no need to change. I'll add the explaination to the edguide. -- Bruce

Re: UID/GID

2005-04-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Archaic wrote: On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 08:47:36AM -0700, Jeremy Utley wrote: The problem is, if the book, as it is currently written, is followed, then system users groups will be created as non-system. But that doesn't actually matter, it is merely an historical issue that *may* have

Thunderbird (was Re: Build failure caused by environment variable)

2005-04-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Utley wrote: jlh wrote: It would be good to mention something about this somewhere. Maybe the build instructions should tell to unset the variables after not being required anymore. Ideally, people would use a fresh shell for building each package to ensure that no such variables

Re: r3818 - trunk/BOOK/template

2005-04-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: I've not mentioned this yet, however, it's probably time to. I find the new indentation method to be *very* difficult to work with. What is the point in it? To me, it just makes the job of updating the packages more difficult. It should be the other way around. I

Re: XFree86 and pkgconfig

2005-05-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Andrew Benton wrote these words on 05/02/05 11:48 CST: the instructions to install X windows suggest /usr/X11R6/bin and /usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfig are added to your PATH and PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variables but I wonder if it wouldn't make more sense to simply move

Re: Manpath in Java configuration

2005-05-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
TheOldFellow wrote: I note (with some ire!) that the profile.d snippet in the latest Java instructions includes the line: pathappend ${JAVA_HOME}/man MANPATH This completely screws setting the MANPATH using /etc/man.conf, as normally setup by an LFS installation. Setting any MANPATH

Re: Link to the Editor's Guide

2005-05-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: The link to the Editor's Guide seems to be broken on the BLFS web site main page. I tried it on some of the mirrors and directly from Belgarath. Thanks, fixed. The link was to guide.html, but the file was index.html. I renamed index-guide and it should sync up on the

Re: Integrating patches and blfs

2005-05-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: One additional problem comes quickly to mind...svn properties used in BLFS that are not in the current patches repo. Is it a concern at all? It should be easy enough to add the keyword properties. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: r4277 - trunk/BOOK/gnome/core

2005-05-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: M.Canales.es wrote these words on 05/15/05 17:38 CST: El Lunes, 16 de Mayo de 2005 00:16, Randy McMurchy escribi: I really think it is wrong to change the capitalization the maintainer provides, simply because it is used in a title. In some packages documentation the

Re: r4277 - trunk/BOOK/gnome/core

2005-05-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 05/15/05 18:20 CST: What I'm looking for is to be consistent with the package names that the originator uses. If they are using different cases in different situtations, than I think its OK for us to do the same. Otherwise, we should

Re: r4277 - trunk/BOOK/gnome/core

2005-05-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
M.Canales.es wrote: El Lunes, 16 de Mayo de 2005 02:06, Randy McMurchy escribió: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 05/15/05 18:53 CST: The editor's guide is just that: a guide. It's not a legal document. If an editor has what he thinks is a good reason to deviate, that's OK. We should all

Re: Portmapper running as invalid UID

2005-05-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Herbison wrote: As I posted in blfs-support, it appears portmapper, at least when run using the blfs bootscript (and not started by inetd/xinetd as the portmapper manpage recommends), runs as UID 1 regardless of whether or not that is even a valid UID. Either the book needs to add a bin

Re: K3b

2005-05-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: Hi guys. I found a new burning program and absolutely love it - K3B. Well new to me being it's a KDE app, but it looks equally good (respecting your gtk2 theme) in gnome. Reminds me much of Nero-5 on Windows. In order to make it display writing and buffer status, it needs

Re: BLFS-bootscripts uninstall-targets

2005-05-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthias Berndt wrote: Greetings, refering to http://blfs-bugs.linuxfromscratch.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1334 I want to know - just for fun - if the uninstall-targets should remove configurationsfiles like $(EXTDIR)/sysconfig/autofs.conf? I don't think so, but how do you think? My

Re: Broken Bootscript

2005-05-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: Actually I wouldn't use a bootscript for gdm/xdm/kdm, but it was decided in not one, but two different discussions (one was heated) that this is easiest from the users POV as opposed to setting it up in inittab. Maybe its the Alzheimer's, but I don't remember either of these

Re: List of Tables

2005-06-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Hi all, Mostly directed to Bruce. FYI, and a question for everyone else. At the bottom of the SVN main BLFS page (table of contents) there is a new List of Tables section. This is an artifact of the default xsl scripts. The only link in this section is broken. And

Re: List of Tables

2005-06-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
M.Canales.es wrote: El Jueves, 2 de Junio de 2005 07:20, Bruce Dubbs escribió: Manuel, can you give us some options here? I vote for removing the TOC link, is more easy and IMHO has nosense to create a List of Tables when there is only one table. Fixed in few minutes... Thanks

Re: Rsync requires ssh/rsh

2005-06-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: My question is more about the policy that run-time dependencies aren't listed unless there is a special exception. To me, this qualifies as a special exception. We don't need it in dependencies. ssh does not need to be built before rsync. I will defer to whatever

Re: Samba - stunnel should be dependent

2005-06-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Again, like the rsync instructions, I'll have to defer to Bruce's judgment. It is not required to build, yet we provide instructions to use it during the configuration. To me, it is as you say, now a required dependency, however, as you correctly point out, it isn't.

Re: README in current svn.

2005-06-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Richard A Downing FBCS CITP wrote: The instructions seem to be untested. Where I expect ${BASEDIR}, the file says $(BASEDIR) and some of the / dividing elements of filenames are missing. These work: BASEDIR=/public_html/BLFS/ xsltproc --xinclude --nonet -stringparam base.dir ${BASEDIR} \

Re: Bluefish (was New packages policy?)

2005-06-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
The Oldfellow wrote: TheOldFellow wrote: What's the policy on new packages in the BLFS book? For instance I discovered an editor, called Bluefish, and introduced a number of LFSers to it, with good reports. BLFS doesn't have a tabbed desktop-independent X-windows editor designed for markup

Re: run ntpd as unprvileged user

2005-06-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthias Berndt wrote: I think it makes sense to run ntpd as restricted user to prevent security problems. By adding --enable-linuxcaps as configure switch, one user:group combo to the system and appending -u ntp:ntp to the bootscripts all nedded things get done. This is a reasonable thing

Re: run ntpd as unprvileged user

2005-06-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthias Berndt wrote: That's correct. This option is only available if the OS supports to run the server without full root privileges. Currently, this option is supported under NetBSD and Linux. It's disabled by default. I still don't see how to enable the capability gracefully. Running: $

Re: NOTIC TO WHOEVER KEEPS SENDING PAYPAL LETTERS

2005-06-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Declan Moriarty wrote: may I suggest you add the ruleset 70_sare_spoof.cf to trusted rulesets on your spamassassin installation, as that will catch the forged ebay and forged paypal spam causing so much annoyance these days. Vipul's Razor also catches about 50% of them. It should also be

Re: OpenOffice 1.9 - beta late than never

2005-06-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: DJ Lucas wrote: real725m59.836s user559m34.396s sys 53m8.695s [EMAIL PROTECTED] src680-m108]# what is your binutils time? 265 Seconds Wow. 164+ SBU? I think that sets the record. It may be more than all of the rest of BLFS combined

Re: Freetype-2.1.10 bytecode interpreter patch

2005-06-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: Hi folks, Here's an updated patch, as the existing one doesn't apply to the latest upstream release. Regards, Matt. Submitted By: BLFS Book blfs-book@linuxfromscratch.org Date:

Re: Freetype-2.1.10 bytecode interpreter patch

2005-06-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Here's the simplest sed my feeble mind can come up with using the backreference method: sed -i \ s:/\* \(#define TT_CONFIG_OPTION_BYTECODE_INTERPRETER\) \*/:\1: \ include/freetype/config/ftoption.h How about: sed -i s:/\* \(#define.*INTERPRETER\) \*/:\1: \

Re: Freetype-2.1.10 bytecode interpreter patch

2005-06-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Um, did you guys miss my post earlier in this thread that had a sed option much like this one? No. We were just discussing options. Not sure if it's better, but it's shorter: sed -i '[EMAIL PROTECTED]/\* \(.*BYTE.*\) \*/@\1@' \

Re: Freetype-2.1.10 bytecode interpreter patch

2005-06-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Unfortunately, for folks that may type the commands in, it is a bit more tedious. But I seriously doubt many guys type in the commands from the majority of the packages in the BLFS book, unlike the LFS book. This may be an exception, Randy. X uses fontconfig whuch

Re: editor's guide questions

2005-06-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Archaic wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 10:14:58AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: As above. Build size includes space for both the build and the install. Another question came up. If the package being built includes a bootscript, does estimated build size account for both the unpacked

anduin backups

2005-06-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
One of the things we ahve not been doing on anduin is making regular backups. I am paying $10/month for 10GB of ftp space for backups. Does anyone want to take a cut at creating a script to backup anduin so we can put it into a cron job? -- Bruce --

Re: Bugzilla Interface Improvements

2005-06-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: James Robertson wrote: I still need the latest 2.16 code on the server anyways. I am going to try and get to it this weekend. Lovely, thanks. I added a note to the bugzilla bug in bugzilla about this :) In the meantime, the easiest way around this seems to be

Re: Bugzilla Interface Improvements

2005-06-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
David Jensen wrote: I can't seem to Assign it to anyone but the book. I am an idiot, or I am not set up properly. Probably the former. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe:

Re: Chapter 27, Fluxbox

2005-07-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: However, my understanding of recent threads is that a package *must* be a compile-time dependency to list it is a dependency. Else, it is listed in the configuration section, or some other appropriate place. Overall, keeping the build dependencies and run-time

Re: NTP-4.2.0

2005-07-08 Thread Bruce Dubbs
David Jensen wrote: Here is what I propose: cat /etc/ntp.conf EOF driftfile /var/cache/ntp.drift server 0.pool.ntp.org server 1.pool.ntp.org server 2.pool.ntp.org EOF I would add: pidfile /var/run/ntp.pid The problem with the pools, AFAICT, is that it doesn't handle

Re: A bit more info on kernel config for X, please

2005-07-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Kim McCall wrote: In the Kernel Configuration section, the first paragraph talks clearly about something we should do in a top-level menu. But the second paragraph refers to the Character Devices section. It seems to be referring to the aforementioned top-level menu or possibly to some

Re: pciutils enhancement: libpci.a installation

2005-07-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Tushar Teredesai wrote: Hi: I would like to propose that we add libpci.a during the installation of pciutils. The following commands would accompolish that: install -d /usr/include/pci install -m 644 lib/libpci.a /usr/lib install -m 644 lib/*.h /usr/include/pci Comments? Do

[Fwd: Berkeley DB]

2005-07-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Original Message Subject: Berkeley DB Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 19:02:22 -0500 From: Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] David, Did you add the test instructions to the Berkeley DB section? If so, it must have been while I was on vacation

[Fwd: Re: Berkeley DB]

2005-07-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Original Message Subject: Re: Berkeley DB Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 19:35:24 -0500 From: David Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce Dubbs wrote: David, Did you add the test instructions to the Berkeley DB section

[Fwd: Re: Berkeley DB]

2005-07-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Original Message Subject: Re: Berkeley DB Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 19:57:21 -0500 From: Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Jensen wrote: It always *best guesses* 1 hour! 4 processes

[Fwd: Re: Berkeley DB]

2005-07-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Original Message Subject: Re: Berkeley DB Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:19:34 -0500 From: David Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce Dubbs wrote: Do you know were the dirs were made

[Fwd: Re: Berkeley DB]

2005-07-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Original Message Subject: Re: Berkeley DB Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:40:42 -0500 From: Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Jensen wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote

[Fwd: Re: Berkeley DB]

2005-07-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Original Message Subject: Re: Berkeley DB Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:46:46 -0500 From: David Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce Dubbs wrote: I've

[Fwd: Re: Berkeley DB]

2005-07-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Original Message Subject: Re: Berkeley DB Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 11:00:08 -0500 From: Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] David

[Fwd: Re: Berkeley DB]

2005-07-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Original Message Subject: Re: Berkeley DB Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 22:00:01 -0500 From: David Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce Dubbs wrote

[Fwd: Re: Berkeley DB]

2005-07-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Original Message Subject: Re: Berkeley DB Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 12:29:11 -0500 From: Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

[Fwd: Re: Berkeley DB]

2005-07-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Original Message Subject: Re: Berkeley DB Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 07:25:32 -0500 From: David Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bruce Dubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce Dubbs wrote: $cat

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