Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r13001 - trunk/BOOK/postlfs/security

2014-04-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:49:34PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 29-04-2014 20:04, Ken Moffat escreveu: By sysvinit without systemd do you mean a hybrid system running sysvinit? No, I mean LFS as it is, but only using Bruce's default instructions to boot

Re: [blfs-dev] nss-3.16 instructions and x86_64

2014-04-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: Maybe this is just me, but I'll flag it up anyway. I see that the instructions have not actually changed since 7.5, but I was obviously using something based on an older version : I exported all the variables, and then ran make. This time, I tried to use what is in the

Re: [blfs-dev] nss-3.16 instructions and x86_64

2014-04-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 30-04-2014 02:47, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: First, the line $([ -f /usr/include/sqlite3.h ] echo NSS_USE_SYSTEM_SQLITE=1) caused the build to fail. I don't remember when this was introduced, by whom, but I think it has been there for more than a year. I am

Re: [blfs-dev] New package: zeitgeist-0.9.14

2014-05-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: It seems that many python modules are going to need some tool to get built/installed. It seems that we run into the python install issue periodically. The place I know about is when installing Trac. If we have a requirement for a python installation tool, then

Re: [blfs-dev] tripwire error with gcc-4.9.0

2014-05-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Hi, Run into the same error described in: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2014-01/msg00245.html It seems that g++ does not allow anymore something that was allowed before, but I do not know how to fix. The above thread is not helpful, nor other places on the internet (there is

Re: [blfs-dev] New package: zeitgeist-0.9.14

2014-05-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 05-05-2014 12:05, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Now, I have zeitgeist-0.9.14 installed, totem reinstalled, still more than 20s for the window to appear. As I expected, did not solve my problem. I suggest not worrying about the book right

Re: [blfs-dev] Problem lua-5.2.3 with Readline-6.3 and Ncurses-5.9

2014-05-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Log further below. Error when building lua. I needed to use sed -i 's/-lreadline/-lreadline -lncurses/' src/Makefile (I prefer to explicitly repeat the search string, if it is not too large). Is it just me, or I should fix the book? You should probably fix the

Re: [blfs-dev] r13022 - in trunk/BOOK: . general/genlib general/genutils general/graphlib general/prog general/sysutils gnome/applications introduction/welcome networking/netlibs networking/netutils p

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 16-05-2014 06:40, Fernando de Oliveira escreveu: Em 15-05-2014 22:19, Ken Moffat escreveu: Should we in-effect revert both these hunks, now that systemd has fallen out of LFS ? A big Thank You to Fernando for documenting in the log that this had changed.

Re: [blfs-dev] #5048: postfix-2.11.1 (and other tickets)

2014-05-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
BLFS Trac wrote: #5048: postfix-2.11.1 Changes (by ken@…): * owner: bdubbs@… = ken@… * status: assigned = new You might want to accept it too. Also, look at #4889. How is #5041 going? -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: [blfs-dev] #5048: postfix-2.11.1 (and other tickets)

2014-05-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 06:46:31PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: BLFS Trac wrote: #5048: postfix-2.11.1 Changes (by ken@…): * owner: bdubbs@… = ken@… * status: assigned = new You might want to accept it too. My apologies, I did not spot that it was yours - I've

Re: [blfs-dev] RFC: KDE Frameworks 5

2014-05-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 05/26/2014 12:17 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: Hello there, I took some time to write instructions for KDE Frameworks 5, the split up kdelibs based on Qt5 and QML that will be used by next generation Plasma 2 Workspaces (some may call it simply KDE 5). All files

Re: [blfs-dev] network manager and permissions

2014-05-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Finally replying. Sorry, but it took some time to recall what I knew about this and still there are some details I could not remember. In conclusion, agree, but perhaps with some modifications? OK, thanks. I'll try to get back to this soon. The last several days

Re: [blfs-dev] FireFox 29.0.1

2014-06-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
thorsten wrote: The question I want to ask is how common is this problem ? - for me, firefox has always crashed from time to time, but I haven't seen consistent problems. On the (rare) occasions when it disappears, retarting it normally shows no problem. Is there a site people are willing

Re: [blfs-dev] bash script

2014-06-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Aleksandar Kuktin wrote: # ... yada yada yada ... } 21 | tee $SDIR/logs/$PROGRAM.log time_elapsed=$(grep 'Elapsed Time' $SDIR/logs/$PROGRAM.log | \ sed 's/^\([[:digit:]]\+\)\..*$/\1/'); # ... echo SBU: $(($time_elapsed / $standard_sbu)) But no matter, the infomation we need is

[blfs-dev] Recent Activities

2014-06-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Just a note to say thinks to all who have helped in my exploration of a lot of new hardware. I have now made everything work on my new laptop and it has been a challenge. One of the reasons I got the new system was to have additional HW to support BLFS development. Here is a list of things

Re: [blfs-dev] xscreensaver shutdown behavior

2014-06-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 06/04/2014 08:01 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I usually start Xorg from the command line and log out to the command line when done. One thing I've noticed is a nasty message from xscreensaver about how we've installed it incorrectly or that we are running as root (suid) when we

Re: [blfs-dev] xscreensaver shutdown behavior

2014-06-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: Just make xfce4-session start xscreensaver -nosplash through Settings - Session and Startup (I think). That'd be the official way. It always worked fine for me. I don't see a way to add -nosplash (I don't see a splash), but xfce managed to add xscreensaver automatically to

[blfs-dev] texlive-20130530

2014-06-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Reading the text of this page says: A binary version of the TeX Live package is installed at install-tl-unx. Here, we use that to rebuild the compiled programs from source. ... These instructions will overwrite the corresponding files from the binary installer. However install-tl-unx is

[blfs-dev] Miscellaneous issues regarding adding vnc

2014-06-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I'm looking at add in a vnc server and client to the book. I've looked at tightvnc, but that seems to require sources from xfree86 so I'm not going to use that. I've looked at x11vnc. It seems to be fairly easy to build, but there are some deficiencies. First of all, it is only a server. A

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-06-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Missing thunderbird-24.6.0.source.tar.bz2 md5sum book: 12945d4aefdf79ea59ae6d641e0983ef download: 3e5d44c7e716e132601a40e865a13ef8 ??? -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] Files in BLFS svn missing on anduin

2014-06-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 13-06-2014 13:35, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: bdu...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Missing thunderbird-24.6.0.source.tar.bz2 md5sum book: 12945d4aefdf79ea59ae6d641e0983ef download: 3e5d44c7e716e132601a40e865a13ef8 ??? This time, I have an explantation

Re: [blfs-dev] ... r13237 - in trunk/BOOK: x/lib xsoft/graphweb xsoft/other

2014-06-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 14-06-2014 08:17, Armin K. escreveu: On 06/14/2014 12:12 PM, ferna...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Author: fernando Date: Sat Jun 14 03:12:53 2014 New Revision: 13237 Log: typo Modified: trunk/BOOK/x/lib/xulrunner.xml

Re: [blfs-dev] fltk nitpick

2014-06-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Nathan Coulson wrote: The patch is named http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/patches/blfs/svn/fltk-1.3.2-dynamic_libs-1.patch while the patch command uses fltk-1.3.2-dynamic-libs-1.patch Fixed. Thanks. -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: [blfs-dev] phonon 4.7.1 fails since cmake 3.0 is available

2014-06-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Thierry Nuttens wrote: Tanks a lot for this incredible fast answer. What you means by Don't top post Sorry If I'm making something wrong, let me know See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style -- Bruce A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is

Re: [blfs-dev] Shadow rebuilds without 32 characters group names

2014-06-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
ALZ (phyglos.org) wrote: Hi, In LFS SVN, Shadow is now built --with-group-name-max-length=32. Should it be also rebuilt with the same switch in BLFS? Yes. Fixed. Thanks. -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html

Re: [blfs-dev] Messagebus group and user

2014-06-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Hi, In LFS, the user and group messagebus are created in 6.6 Creating Essential Files and Symlinks. Then, in BLFS, the text for D-Bus says: As the |root| user, create a system user and group to handle the system message bus activity: [...instructions...]. Shouldn't one

Re: [blfs-dev] typo : x/lib/fltk.xml

2014-06-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Denis MUGNIER wrote: Just a little typo, on the file x/lib/fltk.xml In addition, there are 70 other executable test progroms in the test directory that can be run individually s/progroms/programs OK. Fixed. -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ:

Re: [blfs-dev] ticket 5042 - gcc-4.9.0 32-bit build issues

2014-06-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
BLFS Trac wrote: Comment (by pierre.labastie): For LO, I have seen your SOS, and I'd be happy to help, but it is a big beast I have never built before (neither on 32 nor on 64 bit), so I guess I'll first have to learn it. Furthermore, if it is a GCC error, it may be tricky to fix...

Re: [blfs-dev] Lynx 2.8.8 in BLFS 7.5 - silent version change?

2014-06-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 20-06-2014 13:02, David Brodie escreveu: Hi The file I have just downloaded today has failed a checksum test, the actual checksum being as follows: md5sum lynx2.8.8.tar.bz2 b231c2aa34dfe7ca25681ef4e55ee7e8 lynx2.8.8.tar.bz2 rather than

Re: [blfs-dev] blfs-book post from kre...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org requires approval

2014-06-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
blfs-book-ow...@lists.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List:blfs-b...@lists.linuxfromscratch.org From:kre...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org Subject: r13264 - in branches/frameworks2: .

Re: [blfs-dev] blfs-book post from kre...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org requires approval

2014-06-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Denis Mugnier wrote: hi, Le 22/06/2014 20:37, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : blfs-book-ow...@lists.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the following mailing list posting: List:blfs-b...@lists.linuxfromscratch.org From:kre

Re: [blfs-dev] blfs-book post from kre...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org requires approval

2014-06-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 06/22/2014 11:13 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Denis Mugnier wrote: If the framework branch is merged with the book, there will be a lot of translation work. So , if possible, I want to scheduled this job ;o). The roll out will be complex. We will probably be better off going

Re: [blfs-dev] patches r2920 - trunk/icedtea

2014-06-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
: Modify instruction creating certificates to use LC_ALL=C + 2013-07-20 + Regenerate for version 2.5.0 (P. Labastie, 2014-06-25) +Upstream Status: Not Submitted +Origin: DJ Lucas dj AT linuxfromscratch DOT org, Bruce Dubbs (mydate function) +Description: Allows the build to generate

Re: [blfs-dev] Possible BLFS systemd solution

2014-06-29 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: On 06/29/2014 02:55 PM, Armin K. wrote: Hello all, As you could see, few moments ago I've commited a systemd2 branch, which contains a prototype of how I would try to create and maintain BLFS systemd book from single (fsvo single) xml source hierarchy. So how would I achieve

Re: [blfs-dev] Possible BLFS systemd solution

2014-06-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Em 30-06-2014 10:19, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: One thing I never understood is why do we maintain all the version numbers entities in the general.ent file? for the majority of updates, the only thing that is updated is the version number

Re: [blfs-dev] Is Java AWT peer needed for GCC java?

2014-06-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Hi, There is something I need to ask about GCC-Java: In order to have a more conform JVM, one needs an AWT (abstract window toolkit) peer, which provides an interface between the AWT and a real window system. As far as I understand, the only functional AWT peers available

Re: [blfs-dev] Possible BLFS systemd solution

2014-06-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 06/30/2014 03:19 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Wayne Blaszczyk wrote: One thing I never understood is why do we maintain all the version numbers entities in the general.ent file? for the majority of updates, the only thing that is updated is the version number and the md5sum which

Re: [blfs-dev] Is Java AWT peer needed for GCC java?

2014-07-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: On June 30, 2014 2:42:58 PM CDT, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: If there is a use case, then I can easily change my opinion, but right now the only justification seems to be completeness when building gcc. Silly argument, but strictly for arguments sake, it's

Re: [blfs-dev] Is Java AWT peer needed for GCC java?

2014-07-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Concerning Ada, it is really different: the package is mature, Ada is used by some category of persons (in aerospace industry at least), and it does not add any new dependencies, so I think we may have it in the book. Ada was designed for the US Department of Defense,

Re: [blfs-dev] Possible BLFS systemd solution

2014-07-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: It has been a week since I sent this out and I haven't got a single clear yes or no from any of the current developers. Should I give up hopes on this? Not yet. I would like to see a systemd version of BLFS, but how to do it is still open. -- Bruce --

Re: [blfs-dev] Possible BLFS systemd solution

2014-07-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 07/05/2014 06:04 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: It has been a week since I sent this out and I haven't got a single clear yes or no from any of the current developers. Should I give up hopes on this? Not yet. I would like to see a systemd version of BLFS, but how

Re: [blfs-dev] Possible BLFS systemd solution

2014-07-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: Packages that need any modifications are listed here: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~krejzi/notes.txt Although, packages that only install scripts via make-install-bootscript wouldn't need any modifications since xref linkend=bootscripts/ is being used and we could assign

Re: [blfs-dev] A couple of command inconsistencies

2014-07-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
John Burrell wrote: Dear Editors In the BLFS commands postlfs, 041-iptables has this line --enable-libipq There is a space after the which makes it difficult to do a global delete on the This is also true for general/251-ruby with this line: --docdir=/usr/share/doc/ruby-2.1.2 Would

[blfs-dev] libvdpau-0.8

2014-07-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
In ticket #5232 libvdpau-0.8 is specified as a new version. I can build it and 'make check' runs without problem. I'll update the package if I can figure out how to test it. How do I know it it's being used and if it's working properly? Anyone know? -- Bruce --

Re: [blfs-dev] libvdpau-0.8

2014-07-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 08:23:04PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: In ticket #5232 libvdpau-0.8 is specified as a new version. I can build it and 'make check' runs without problem. I'll update the package if I can figure out how to test it. How do I know it it's being used

Re: [blfs-dev] New Editor

2014-07-09 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Christopher Gregory wrote: It seems that we should probably use, in my case, c...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org. That's only for the script that echos to the mailing lists after commits. It does not affect the actual commit. I receive notices about all mailing list rejects and can allow

Re: [blfs-dev] libvdpau-0.8

2014-07-10 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Christopher Gregory wrote: On Fri, July 11, 2014 9:39 am, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ragnar Thomsen wrote: On Sunday 06 July 2014 20:23:04 Bruce Dubbs wrote: In ticket #5232 libvdpau-0.8 is specified as a new version. I can build it and 'make check' runs without problem. I'll update the package

Re: [blfs-dev] libvdpau-0.8

2014-07-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: On Thursday 10 July 2014 16:39:17 Bruce Dubbs wrote: I finally got around to this and it worked fine. Thanks Ragnar. Now, how to add it to the book? AFAICT, there is only the github version. I can download a .zip file from there, but I'm sure the md5sum will change. I

Re: [blfs-dev] KDE Plasma 5 and KDE Frameworks 5 are ready for testing

2014-07-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: Hello everyone, While Christopher was busy with GNOME 3 work, I took some free time today to update my earlier work on bringing KDE Frameworks 5 and KDE Plasma 5 into BLFS. I am pround to say that I believe everything should be in place to get a fully working KDE Plasma 5

Re: [blfs-dev] Systemd blfs-gnome branch

2014-07-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Sorry, sent before, directly to Chistopher, by mistake. Em 15-07-2014 14:26, Christopher Gregory escreveu: On Wed, July 16, 2014 2:26 am, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, I have just completed the conversion of the entire book to systemd. I have uploaded a

Re: [blfs-dev] a little typo

2014-07-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Denis MUGNIER wrote: Just to report a little typo; file : logrotate.xml At the end of the file we can read : performs the log maintenace functions defined in the configuration files instead performs the log maintenaNce functions defined in the configuration files OK, fixed. -- Bruce

Re: [blfs-dev] Adding of some binaries descriptions

2014-07-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Denis Mugnier wrote: Hi, To complete the mpg123.xml file, I propose to add some binaries descriptions. Good idea. I'll commit it with my next update. Thanks for the patch. -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r13509 - in branches/systemd: . postlfs/security systemd-units systemd-units/blfs/services systemd-units/blfs/units

2014-07-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 07/20/2014 06:47 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: kre...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Author: krejzi Date: Sun Jul 20 08:55:27 2014 New Revision: 13509 Log: Convert iptables, firewall section and haveged to systemd. Remove network service files from systemd-units. Added

[blfs-dev] About Fernando de Oliveira

2014-07-20 Thread Bruce Dubbs
It is with great regret that I received an email from Fernando that he has had a major relapse of a chronic back problem. He is in quite a bit of pain and will not be participating on the lists until he can get it under control again. Let's all wish him a speedy recovery. -- Bruce --

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r13663 - branches/systemd/gnome-systemd/applications

2014-07-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:40:37 -0500 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: BLFS Development List blfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r13663 - branches/systemd/gnome-systemd/applications . . + !ENTITY

Re: [blfs-dev] [lfs-patches] r2957 - trunk/nfs-utils

2014-07-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
c...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Author: cjg Date: Sun Jul 27 04:18:13 2014 New Revision: 2957 Log: Just added a patch for nfs-utils that fixes run-time segfaults when using gcc 4.9.x. Added: trunk/nfs-utils/nfs-utils-1.3.0-gcc-4.9-1.patch Added:

Re: [blfs-dev] Leaving for a few weeks

2014-07-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Hi all, I'll be out for a few weeks, and with limited internet access (mountain hiking). Have fun Pierre. -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] [BLFS Trac] #5301: Fix vala-0.24.0 (for at least Gucharmap-3.12.1)

2014-07-27 Thread Bruce Dubbs
BLFS Trac wrote: #5301: Fix vala-0.24.0 (for at least Gucharmap-3.12.1) Comment: Don't know why link to the patch is not working. Patch was uploaded yesterday. The patch is in the repo, but doesn't get copied into the svn section of current patches until it's in the book. -- Bruce

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r13701 - trunk/BOOK/postlfs/security

2014-07-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
i...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Author: igor Date: Mon Jul 28 03:46:20 2014 New Revision: 13701 Log: we don't need bash for cacerts shell scripts Actually, when I wrote the cacerts shell scripts I intended for them to be bash specific. What do we gain by not using bash here? --

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r13701 - trunk/BOOK/postlfs/security

2014-07-28 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 07/28/2014 07:10 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: i...@higgs.linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Author: igor Date: Mon Jul 28 03:46:20 2014 New Revision: 13701 Log: we don't need bash for cacerts shell scripts Actually, when I wrote the cacerts shell scripts I intended for them to be bash

Re: [blfs-dev] Explanation of three new patches for lxsession for systemd users

2014-07-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, Well I have just submitted three patches to get systemd logind working correctly on lxsession-0.4.9.2. These patches do not exist any where else. I have created them. What I did was downloaded and installed the lxsession-0.4.9.3 from their git repository and

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r13739 - in branches/systemd: . gnome-systemd/intro lxde/desktop

2014-07-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Christopher Gregory wrote: On Thu, 2014-07-31 at 16:33 +0200, Armin K. wrote: On 07/31/2014 04:20 PM, Christopher Gregory wrote: Why 3? All should've been squashed into single patch. The -1, -2 and -3 represent the revisions. If all 3 serve different purpose (which is not the case here),

Re: [blfs-dev] Beyond Linux From Scratch systemd Edition

2014-07-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: The changes include rewritten Qt4 and Qt5 instructions so they can be once again installed alongside each other in /usr, using qtchooser to dynamically switch between two installations. The instructions were also simplified so that only one configure line is there and prefix can

Re: [blfs-dev] Beyond Linux From Scratch systemd Edition

2014-07-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 07/31/2014 11:10 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: The changes include rewritten Qt4 and Qt5 instructions so they can be once again installed alongside each other in /usr, using qtchooser to dynamically switch between two installations. The instructions were also

Re: [blfs-dev] Beyond Linux From Scratch systemd Edition

2014-07-31 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 07/31/2014 11:23 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: On 07/31/2014 11:10 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: The changes include rewritten Qt4 and Qt5 instructions so they can be once again installed alongside each other in /usr, using qtchooser to dynamically switch

Re: [blfs-dev] /etc/logrotate.conf nomail option

2014-08-01 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: I'm just updating my build scripts. For years I have used a simple script to do log rotation, so now I am going to try the logrotate package. Looking at the creation of /etc/logrotate.conf we have the following: # Don't send mail to anybody nomail I read that comment as

Re: [blfs-dev] The explanation on the BLFS unpacking page

2014-08-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, On the BLFS unpacking page at the bottom it has the following: The above command removes all .la files with the exception of those that have Image (ImageMagick) as a part of the path. The .la files are used by the ImageMagick modules subdirectory are used by

Re: [blfs-dev] The explanation on the BLFS unpacking page

2014-08-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 08/02/2014 11:00 PM, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, On the BLFS unpacking page at the bottom it has the following: The above command removes all .la files with the exception of those that have Image (ImageMagick) as a part of the path. The .la files are used by the

Re: [blfs-dev] On Wget page

2014-08-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, If you wish to compile wget without ssl support an additional switch needs to be added as well as removing the --with-ssl=openssl The additional switch is: --without-ssl This needs to be added to the commands Explanations section. Without passing this

[blfs-dev] Planning for lfs/blfs 7.6 release

2014-08-03 Thread Bruce Dubbs
We need to do some planning for the upcoming release. Right now all books are looking pretty good. I would like to plan a coordinated release of LFS and BLFS for both trunk and systemd on September 1. In preparation, we will need to do a package freeze on August 15. At that time, we will

Re: [blfs-dev] Planning for lfs/blfs 7.6 release

2014-08-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: On Sunday 03 August 2014 12:16:28 Bruce Dubbs wrote: We need to do some planning for the upcoming release. Right now all books are looking pretty good. I would like to plan a coordinated release of LFS and BLFS for both trunk and systemd on September 1. In preparation

Re: [blfs-dev] ... r13828 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome lxde/desktop

2014-08-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: + paraWith this switch, parallel build is not supported. Use + commandmake -j1/command if you have MAKEFLAGS set to value larger + than unity./para Okay, thanks for the explanation, now it makes more sense. But I still don't understand the word unity and how

Re: [blfs-dev] ... r13828 - in trunk/BOOK: . introduction/welcome lxde/desktop

2014-08-05 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: What I understand is that building one package with n simultaneous jobs is equivalent to building in parallel n different parts of a package, code, parallel build. Feels to me as equivalent to building n packages in parallel, each using one job. In both cases, much

Re: [blfs-dev] When naming versions of gcc

2014-08-06 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: At any given time, the lame page is essentially only referencing one particular version of gcc. If it needs a patch for 4.9.0, and then gcc goes to 4.9.1 in lfs, that means that the lame page is now out-of-sync with lfs: and when the lame page gets updated - whether same/new

Re: [blfs-dev] Planning for lfs/blfs 7.6 release

2014-08-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 03-08-2014 14:16, Bruce Dubbs wrote: We need to do some planning for the upcoming release. Right now all books are looking pretty good. I would like to plan a coordinated release of LFS and BLFS for both trunk and systemd on September 1. In preparation, we

Re: [blfs-dev] ... r13846 - trunk/BOOK/server/mail

2014-08-07 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matt Burgess wrote: On 07/08/2014 12:44, Fernando de Oliveira wrote: Do I need to run make validate and make? Shouldn't make suffice? I'd have thought the 'make' target would depend on the 'validate' target in the Makefile. That's at least how I thought the LFS book does things. What is

Re: [blfs-dev] Planning for lfs/blfs 7.6 release

2014-08-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: We need to do some planning for the upcoming release. Right now all books are looking pretty good. I would like to plan a coordinated release of LFS and BLFS for both trunk and systemd on September 1. In preparation, we will need to do a package freeze on August 15

Re: [blfs-dev] postlfs/profile.html : PKG_CONFIG_PATH : allow for /usr/local/lib64/... ?

2014-08-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: Hi, On svn blfs page: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/profile.html , in section '/etc/profile.d/extrapaths.sh' there is: -- if [ -d /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig ] ; then pathappend /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig PKG_CONFIG_PATH fi -- Should there

Re: [blfs-dev] postlfs/profile.html : '/etc/profile' : add 'unset script' ?

2014-08-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: Hi, On svn blfs page: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/profile.html , in section '/etc/profile' there is at the end of the code: -- for script in /etc/profile.d/*.sh ; do if [ -r $script ] ; then . $script fi done --

Re: [blfs-dev] postlfs/profile.html : '/etc/profile' : add 'unset script' ?

2014-08-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:38:19 -0500 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: BLFS Development List blfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] postlfs/profile.html : '/etc/profile' : add 'unset script' ? akhiezer wrote: Hi, On svn blfs page: http

Re: [blfs-dev] Some problematic links

2014-08-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: These links are frequently down. Last time it is down already for several days. Propose the substitutions. I better links can be provided, please, I would much appreciate. Book: http://0pointer.de/public/libatasmart-0.19.tar.xz Found at

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-support] Chapter 24: Installation of Xorg Libraries for XFCE

2014-08-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: In think it would be nice to link to Bash Startup Files page from the first page in Xorg section as well as any other that creates/modifies files in /etc/profile.d to ensure that /etc/profile and /etc/profile.d/* scripts exist before trying to create new and modify existing

Re: [blfs-dev] BASH script help please

2014-08-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, I have finally overcome my 20 year hatred of scripts and am in the process of creating bash scripts for all the packages in BLFS. As packages get upgraded all the time, what I need to do is to have wild cards to match the package tarballs. I have achieved

Re: [blfs-dev] [blfs-book] r13951 - trunk/BOOK/x/lib

2014-08-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Igor Živković wrote: On 08/19/2014 07:28 PM, Armin K. wrote: On 08/19/2014 07:06 PM, Igor Živković wrote: On 08/19/2014 05:58 PM, Armin K. wrote: On 08/19/2014 05:24 PM, Igor Živković wrote: On 08/19/2014 03:16 PM, Armin K. wrote: On 08/19/2014 12:13 PM, Igor Živković wrote: Right, that

Re: [blfs-dev] TeX : testing it.

2014-08-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: Do you use TeX ? The only testing I do is with my test files, and it took me long enough to get those to work 8) I noticed that some biber scripts use ruby, but my minimal test of (binary) biber works without ruby, so I think that my test coverage is quite minimal. I've

Re: [blfs-dev] TeX : testing it.

2014-08-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 12:38:14PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Do you use TeX ? The only testing I do is with my test files, and it took me long enough to get those to work 8) I noticed that some biber scripts use ruby, but my minimal test of (binary

Re: [blfs-dev] Adding a note to xorg page

2014-08-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 08/24/2014 03:52 AM, Christopher Gregory wrote: Hello, I think that it would be a good idea to add to the XORG section that the packages should be installed in published order from the top of the xorg section through the subsequent sections. This would cut down on the

Re: [blfs-dev] Adding a note to xorg page

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 08/24/2014 06:07 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: On 08/24/2014 03:52 AM, Christopher Gregory wrote: We do have http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/introduction/unpacking.html. Take a look at the section 'Dependencies'. We could add a comment

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: Hi everyone, Fernando has asked me to start a discussion here first. With icedtea-web not being dependant on latest versions of xulrunner but npapi-sdk, this leaves no package that really needs Xulrunner besides Firefox itself. Note that there's a reference in Totem page, but

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: On Sunday 24 August 2014 12:42:46 Bruce Dubbs wrote: In a related topic, I'd also like to see gstreamer-0.10 removed. As far as I can tell, the only active packages that use it are pidgin (optional) and phonon-backend-gstreamer (required). We need to keep an eye

Re: [blfs-dev] Sendmail issues

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: Hi again, Building sendmail packages and I hit an issue. Namely, the newaliases -v command seems to hang (or takes forever to complete), rendering my init scripts (well, systemd units) unusable. Does anyone else experience this? I'm still in favor of archiving the package. For

Re: [blfs-dev] Is it time to retire Xulrunner and WebKitGTK+1.10.x?

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ragnar Thomsen wrote: On Sunday 24 August 2014 16:00:47 Bruce Dubbs wrote: From what I can tell, nothing in BLFS uses phonon-backend-gstreamer directly except phonon itself. If we dropped it, would there be any practical impact? Is there something that someone might want that's

Re: [blfs-dev] Apache-Ant and Junit configuration

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: Hello, My first time building BLFS Java related packages, just for testing and stuff. I did however notice that, unlike with OpenJDK/IcedTea, there are no instructions by default to preserve environment variables for Apache-Ant (ANT_HOME and PATH) and JUnit (JAVA_CLASSPATH) in

Re: [blfs-dev] Sendmail issues

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: The original mail was written when manually running newaliases -v (as part of the instructions, even before installing the systemd unit) hung. As for the resolver issues, It's a virtual machine and systemd-networkd takes care of bringing up the network (which is confirmed since

Re: [blfs-dev] javaws.png

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: The command (which by the way shouldn't contain because it's the last one in the block): install -v -Dm0644 javaws.png /usr/share/pixmaps/javaws.png from latest OpenJDK instructions fails for me because it can't find javaws.png file. The thing is, there doesn't seem to be

Re: [blfs-dev] javaws.png

2014-08-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: On 08/25/2014 03:10 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Armin K. wrote: The command (which by the way shouldn't contain because it's the last one in the block): install -v -Dm0644 javaws.png /usr/share/pixmaps/javaws.png from latest OpenJDK instructions fails for me because it can't

Re: [blfs-dev] OJDK and IT-Web.

2014-08-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: About UTF-8, I do use fr_FR@UTF-8 as my LANG setting, and UNICODE=1 in /etc/sysconfig/console, and it works well. It seems I do not get the point. Oh, I see now: the problem is that the .xml is iso-8859-1 encoded! Problem is: if somebody (Bruce maybe) wants to edit the

Re: [blfs-dev] javaws.png

2014-08-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 25-08-2014 15:21, Armin K. wrote: Please try to limit line length. We don't want infinite lines in xml files. Completely agree. Partially agree. In general it's good to keep lines to less than 80 columns, but exceptions are OK too. -- Bruce --

Re: [blfs-dev] javaws.png

2014-08-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 25-08-2014 20:00, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Fernando de Oliveira wrote: On 25-08-2014 15:21, Armin K. wrote: Please try to limit line length. We don't want infinite lines in xml files. Completely agree. Partially agree. In general it's good to keep lines to less

[blfs-dev] About line lengths in xml

2014-08-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I'd like to add a little bit to the discussion we had about line lengths. To a certain extent, longer lines are unavoidable, but many can be reduced. One technique I use in vim is the capability to reformat a paragraph. If the text to be reformatted is delimited with blank lines, you only

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