Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On 04/05/14 11:55, Bruce Dubbs wrote: rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/04/14 15:06, Bruce Dubbs wrote: rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I use startx. My ~/.xinitrc file contains: /usr/bin/numlock /usr/bin/fluxbox I thought it should be startfluxbox. At least that's what I had the last time I used fluxbox. For now use this in ~/.xinitrc: xterm -g 80x40+0+0 /bin/bash exec twm If I remember correctly, I did test with twm prior to initially posting the problem. But I'll use twm for all future testing. My guess is also xterm. I replied to a post yesterday that I had tried rxvt. That's true, but in retrospect, I believe I brought it up from an xterm window - hence, not much of a test. What about xinit or startx? Xinit is the same size on 7.4 and 7.5 but startx differs. I responded to another post that I have great confidence in my ability to make mistakes. That is unfortunately true. I initially missed the libXft-2.3.1-freetype_fix-1.patch in the Xorg libraries which caused problems with my xclock. Xinit requires twm, xclock, and xterm. startx is a script. If you go to the bottom, you eventually get to the only line that means anything: xinit $client $clientargs -- $server $display $serverargs You can edit that file and add just before that: echo xinit $client $clientargs -- $server $display $serverargs Note in the xterm man page: xterm [-toolkitoption ...] [-option ...] [shell] One parameter (after all options) may be given. That overrides xterm's built-in choice of shell program. Normally xterm checks the SHELL variable. If that is not set, xterm tries to use the shell program specified in the password file. If that is not set, xterm uses /bin/sh. If the parameter is not a relative path, i.e., beginning with ./ or ../, xterm looks for the file in the user's PATH. In either case, it constructs an absolute path. -- Bruce twm comes up, but I still have the wrong prompt and can't source. The output of your echo suggestion is: xinit //.xinitrc -- /usr/bin/X :0 -auth //.serverauth.1307 Something is wrong here. //.xinitrc and //.serverauth.1307 certainly shouldn't be in the root directory. Try to put some echo statements in startx to see what is going on. Also, when you are in the xterm, what is the output of 'set|grep BASH'? echo $SHELL? echo $SHELLOPTS? echo $TERM? -- bruce -- Bruce BASH=/bin/sh BASHOPTS=cmdhist:expand_aliases:extquote:force_fignore:hostcomplete:interactive_comments:progcomp:promptvars:sourcepath BASH_ALIASES=() BASH_ARGC=() BASH_ARGV=() BASH_CMDS=() BASH_LINENO=() BASH_SOURCE=() BASH_VERSINFO=([0]=4 [1]=2 [2]=45 [3]=1 [4]=release [5]=i686-pc-linux-gnu) BASH_VERSION='4.2.45(1)-release' echo $SHELL - /bin/sh echo $SHELLOPTS - braceexpand:emacs:hashall:histexpand:history:interactive-comments:monitor:posix echo $TERM - xterm -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: BASH=/bin/sh This appears to be your problem. It should be /bin/bash. Your password file should be: usr:x:uid:gid::/home/usr:/bin/bash Bash changes behavior if started with the sh name. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On 04/06/14 16:23, Bruce Dubbs wrote: rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: BASH=/bin/sh This appears to be your problem. It should be /bin/bash. Your password file should be: usr:x:uid:gid::/home/usr:/bin/bash Bash changes behavior if started with the sh name. -- Bruce My /etc/passwd entries contain only /bin/bash. Again, I'm OK with using rxvt. I was looking to experiment with other terminal emulators anyway. Perhaps this will work itself out with the next release. I tried the newest kernel yesterday and again got a blank screen. I can't remember a problem with xterm or a blank screen on boot, but it's not as if I'm dead in the water as I have easy workarounds for both. I'm up-and-running on 7.5. If you're still interested in the problem out of curiosity, I admire that and you're the better man. I'll gladly continue testing, but I certainly don't expect you to spend more of your time on this. I've been well served by you and everyone on the board with this problem. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On 04/04/14 15:06, Bruce Dubbs wrote: rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I use startx. My ~/.xinitrc file contains: /usr/bin/numlock /usr/bin/fluxbox I thought it should be startfluxbox. At least that's what I had the last time I used fluxbox. For now use this in ~/.xinitrc: xterm -g 80x40+0+0 /bin/bash exec twm If I remember correctly, I did test with twm prior to initially posting the problem. But I'll use twm for all future testing. My guess is also xterm. I replied to a post yesterday that I had tried rxvt. That's true, but in retrospect, I believe I brought it up from an xterm window - hence, not much of a test. What about xinit or startx? Xinit is the same size on 7.4 and 7.5 but startx differs. I responded to another post that I have great confidence in my ability to make mistakes. That is unfortunately true. I initially missed the libXft-2.3.1-freetype_fix-1.patch in the Xorg libraries which caused problems with my xclock. Xinit requires twm, xclock, and xterm. startx is a script. If you go to the bottom, you eventually get to the only line that means anything: xinit $client $clientargs -- $server $display $serverargs You can edit that file and add just before that: echo xinit $client $clientargs -- $server $display $serverargs Note in the xterm man page: xterm [-toolkitoption ...] [-option ...] [shell] One parameter (after all options) may be given. That overrides xterm's built-in choice of shell program. Normally xterm checks the SHELL variable. If that is not set, xterm tries to use the shell program specified in the password file. If that is not set, xterm uses /bin/sh. If the parameter is not a relative path, i.e., beginning with ./ or ../, xterm looks for the file in the user's PATH. In either case, it constructs an absolute path. -- Bruce An update. I again compiled rxvt, but opened it using my /.fluxbox/keys file. All is well using rxvt. My prompt is correct and the source command works. This solves the problem for me and I'll simply continue with rxvt. However, if you're still interested in solving the xterm problem I'll be happy to continue with whatever tests you suggest. I do thank everyone for their help and suggestions. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/04/14 15:06, Bruce Dubbs wrote: rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I use startx. My ~/.xinitrc file contains: /usr/bin/numlock /usr/bin/fluxbox I thought it should be startfluxbox. At least that's what I had the last time I used fluxbox. For now use this in ~/.xinitrc: xterm -g 80x40+0+0 /bin/bash exec twm If I remember correctly, I did test with twm prior to initially posting the problem. But I'll use twm for all future testing. My guess is also xterm. I replied to a post yesterday that I had tried rxvt. That's true, but in retrospect, I believe I brought it up from an xterm window - hence, not much of a test. What about xinit or startx? Xinit is the same size on 7.4 and 7.5 but startx differs. I responded to another post that I have great confidence in my ability to make mistakes. That is unfortunately true. I initially missed the libXft-2.3.1-freetype_fix-1.patch in the Xorg libraries which caused problems with my xclock. Xinit requires twm, xclock, and xterm. startx is a script. If you go to the bottom, you eventually get to the only line that means anything: xinit $client $clientargs -- $server $display $serverargs You can edit that file and add just before that: echo xinit $client $clientargs -- $server $display $serverargs Note in the xterm man page: xterm [-toolkitoption ...] [-option ...] [shell] One parameter (after all options) may be given. That overrides xterm's built-in choice of shell program. Normally xterm checks the SHELL variable. If that is not set, xterm tries to use the shell program specified in the password file. If that is not set, xterm uses /bin/sh. If the parameter is not a relative path, i.e., beginning with ./ or ../, xterm looks for the file in the user's PATH. In either case, it constructs an absolute path. -- Bruce twm comes up, but I still have the wrong prompt and can't source. The output of your echo suggestion is: xinit //.xinitrc -- /usr/bin/X :0 -auth //.serverauth.1307 Something is wrong here. //.xinitrc and //.serverauth.1307 certainly shouldn't be in the root directory. Try to put some echo statements in startx to see what is going on. Also, when you are in the xterm, what is the output of 'set|grep BASH'? echo $SHELL? echo $SHELLOPTS? echo $TERM? -- bruce -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On 04/04/14 00:04, Christopher Gregory wrote: On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 4:53:31 PM rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/03/14 16:14, Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:21:34AM -0500, rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: This is a stretch, but I should mention I compiled BLFS/X with an older kernel than I used in compiling LFS. I found I booted to a blank screen after compiling LFS with the 3.13.13 kernel so I reverted to my LFS/BLFS 3.10.10 kernel. I did post the problem to LFS support Blank screen when booting with 3.13.3 kernel. - LFS 7.5 but didn't get a resolution and wasn't told I couldn't use an older kernel. It was a surprise to me I could revert to an older kernel. I specifically asked the question in my post. I will re-compile LFS with the 3.10.10 kernel if suggested. I thought you did get a reply to that point, but it looks as if I'm confusing it with a different thread and perhaps that was on lfs-support. Short answer : as long as the kernel version is at least what you used for --enable-kernel= when compiling glibc everything should continue to work. I say should because you have already discovered that things sometimes break with newer releases, and equally newer releases contain fixes for older versions. In awkward areas (I'm guessing you have an intel video controller), fixes for some machines can break other machines. By the same token, an up-to-date kernel release might have already fixed the problem. But getting a working term in X is obviously more important. I should also mention I've continued past my basic X installation and have no problems other than xterm. I can run X, connect to the internet, and run all programs I ran with BLFS 7.4 without incident. My evil twin suggests that you build a better terminal (urxvt), but that would be working around the problem even if it did work for you. And to be honest I'm not at all convinced it will help, and it would definitely need to be configured [ in .XResources or wherever, and ensure that gets pulled in with xrdb -merge /path/to/resources] so there would be more things which could go wrong. Apart from what Bruce has suggested, compare _all_ the bash files in your 7.5 and 7.4 builds. Is /home shared by the two builds ? If it isn't, also compare the bash files for your regular user account. ĸen Yes, I did get some good replies to my blank screen post. I meant that I didn't see a solution to the problem and everyone seemed OK with my using an older kernel. I should have mentioned that prior to posting my xterm problem I did compile rxvt with the same thought. Unfortunately, I still had a wrong prompt and couldn't source scripts. I have read through these threads, and am wondering if you actually are using bash as your default shell? In the shell's section there is DASH which has the prompt of sh-4.2# when I typed sh from my root terminal. This is the 7.5 version of the BLFS book on shell's I am talking about. In that section you have the option of replacing root's shell with dash by a symlink. I would try recompiling bash from source and see if that fixes the issue that your having. I would even go so far as to delete the .bash files from your system (after backing them up) just in-case there is some weirdness there. Regards, Christopher. Perhaps, but 'll /bin/sh' shows - bash. Doesn't that answer that question? I also have only bash in my directory of packages. But with that said, I have enormous confidence in my ability to make mistakes. I have no better idea and may well try recompiling bash. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On 04/03/14 17:17, Bruce Dubbs wrote: rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: I echoed the file names as you suggested and prior to invoking X the order is: /etc/profile .bash_profile .bashrc /etc/bashrc That is correct. However, I saw nothing when starting X. That's wrong. So I redirected the output to a file. Prior to starting X I see the above. I then nuked the output file and started X but nothing wrote to the file. I attempted the same with BLFS 7.4 and my output after starting X is: .bashrc /etc/bashrc That's what you should see in 7.5 also. Yes, 'type source' produces source is a shell builtin from my BLFS 7.5 command prompt and xterm window. OK. I don't recall if you are using ?dm or using startx. I assume right now it's startx. What are the contents of ~/.xinitrc. This is starting to point to a possible xterm issue. If you are not doing so right now, please use twm for testing. -- Bruce Yes, I use startx. My ~/.xinitrc file contains: /usr/bin/numlock /usr/bin/fluxbox If I remember correctly, I did test with twm prior to initially posting the problem. But I'll use twm for all future testing. My guess is also xterm. I replied to a post yesterday that I had tried rxvt. That's true, but in retrospect, I believe I brought it up from an xterm window - hence, not much of a test. What about xinit or startx? Xinit is the same size on 7.4 and 7.5 but startx differs. I responded to another post that I have great confidence in my ability to make mistakes. That is unfortunately true. I initially missed the libXft-2.3.1-freetype_fix-1.patch in the Xorg libraries which caused problems with my xclock. Xinit requires twm, xclock, and xterm. However, I quickly re-ran the Xorg libraries with the necessary patch and xclock came up. I also restored my raw LFS image and compiled X from square one (several times) before posting. X starts, and everything works but for the xterm prompt and inability to source. I bird-dogged the compiling of every package. I also had a friend check from twm on this morning. If there's an error, we're just not seeing it. But with that said, there very probably is an error we're just not seeing. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I use startx. My ~/.xinitrc file contains: /usr/bin/numlock /usr/bin/fluxbox I thought it should be startfluxbox. At least that's what I had the last time I used fluxbox. For now use this in ~/.xinitrc: xterm -g 80x40+0+0 /bin/bash exec twm If I remember correctly, I did test with twm prior to initially posting the problem. But I'll use twm for all future testing. My guess is also xterm. I replied to a post yesterday that I had tried rxvt. That's true, but in retrospect, I believe I brought it up from an xterm window - hence, not much of a test. What about xinit or startx? Xinit is the same size on 7.4 and 7.5 but startx differs. I responded to another post that I have great confidence in my ability to make mistakes. That is unfortunately true. I initially missed the libXft-2.3.1-freetype_fix-1.patch in the Xorg libraries which caused problems with my xclock. Xinit requires twm, xclock, and xterm. startx is a script. If you go to the bottom, you eventually get to the only line that means anything: xinit $client $clientargs -- $server $display $serverargs You can edit that file and add just before that: echo xinit $client $clientargs -- $server $display $serverargs Note in the xterm man page: xterm [-toolkitoption ...] [-option ...] [shell] One parameter (after all options) may be given. That overrides xterm's built-in choice of shell program. Normally xterm checks the SHELL variable. If that is not set, xterm tries to use the shell program specified in the password file. If that is not set, xterm uses /bin/sh. If the parameter is not a relative path, i.e., beginning with ./ or ../, xterm looks for the file in the user's PATH. In either case, it constructs an absolute path. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps, but 'll /bin/sh' shows - bash. Doesn't that answer that question? Not really. bash behaves differently if invoked as sh. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On 04/02/14 21:50, Bruce Dubbs wrote: rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: My shell is /bin/bash. My bash version is 4.2.45(1) in my 7.4 and 7.5 BLFS. Should they be the same? I don't recall, but bash-4.2.45 is fine. You are slightly ambiguous here. bash behavior changes if it is called as sh. I assume you mean it's being called as bash. What's the output of 'echo $PS1'? How about 'ldd /bin/bash'? Is libreadline.so.6 there? -- Bruce ldd /bin/bash: linux-gate.so.1 (0xb7732000) libreadline.so.6 = /lib/libreadline.so.6 (0xb76f2000) libhistory.so.6 = /lib/libhistory.so.6 (0xb76ea000) libncursesw.so.5 = /lib/libncursesw.so.5 (0xb768c000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7687000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb74dc000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7733000) echo PS1: \s-\v\$ Echo PS1 from LFS shows \w as I would expect. As I can ./SomeScript.sh but cannot source SomeScript.sh I attempted to manually execute /etc/bashrc from /etc in xterm with ./bashrc but received file not found. This is a stretch, but I should mention I compiled BLFS/X with an older kernel than I used in compiling LFS. I found I booted to a blank screen after compiling LFS with the 3.13.13 kernel so I reverted to my LFS/BLFS 3.10.10 kernel. I did post the problem to LFS support Blank screen when booting with 3.13.3 kernel. - LFS 7.5 but didn't get a resolution and wasn't told I couldn't use an older kernel. It was a surprise to me I could revert to an older kernel. I specifically asked the question in my post. I will re-compile LFS with the 3.10.10 kernel if suggested. I should also mention I've continued past my basic X installation and have no problems other than xterm. I can run X, connect to the internet, and run all programs I ran with BLFS 7.4 without incident. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/14 21:50, Bruce Dubbs wrote: What's the output of 'echo $PS1'? How about 'ldd /bin/bash'? Is libreadline.so.6 there? ldd /bin/bash: linux-gate.so.1 (0xb7732000) libreadline.so.6 = /lib/libreadline.so.6 (0xb76f2000) libhistory.so.6 = /lib/libhistory.so.6 (0xb76ea000) libncursesw.so.5 = /lib/libncursesw.so.5 (0xb768c000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7687000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb74dc000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7733000) That's OK. echo PS1: \s-\v\$ I don't know where this came from. Echo PS1 from LFS shows \w as I would expect. As I can ./SomeScript.sh but cannot source SomeScript.sh I attempted to manually execute /etc/bashrc from /etc in xterm with ./bashrc but received file not found. Go back to BLFS Chapter 3 and redo the section The Bash Shell Startup Files This is a stretch, but I should mention I compiled BLFS/X with an older kernel than I used in compiling LFS. I found I booted to a blank screen after compiling LFS with the 3.13.13 kernel so I reverted to my LFS/BLFS 3.10.10 kernel. I did post the problem to LFS support Blank screen when booting with 3.13.3 kernel. - LFS 7.5 but didn't get a resolution and wasn't told I couldn't use an older kernel. It was a surprise to me I could revert to an older kernel. I specifically asked the question in my post. I will re-compile LFS with the 3.10.10 kernel if suggested. The kernel has nothing to do with this. I should also mention I've continued past my basic X installation and have no problems other than xterm. I can run X, connect to the internet, and run all programs I ran with BLFS 7.4 without incident. In the problematic xterm, what do you get if you run '. ~/.bashrc'. The dot by itself is important. In the problematic xterm, run '/bin/bash' to go into a subshell. Now try running 'source ~/.bashrc'. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On 04/03/14 10:44, Bruce Dubbs wrote: rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/14 21:50, Bruce Dubbs wrote: What's the output of 'echo $PS1'? How about 'ldd /bin/bash'? Is libreadline.so.6 there? ldd /bin/bash: linux-gate.so.1 (0xb7732000) libreadline.so.6 = /lib/libreadline.so.6 (0xb76f2000) libhistory.so.6 = /lib/libhistory.so.6 (0xb76ea000) libncursesw.so.5 = /lib/libncursesw.so.5 (0xb768c000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7687000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb74dc000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7733000) That's OK. echo PS1: \s-\v\$ I don't know where this came from. Echo PS1 from LFS shows \w as I would expect. As I can ./SomeScript.sh but cannot source SomeScript.sh I attempted to manually execute /etc/bashrc from /etc in xterm with ./bashrc but received file not found. Go back to BLFS Chapter 3 and redo the section The Bash Shell Startup Files This is a stretch, but I should mention I compiled BLFS/X with an older kernel than I used in compiling LFS. I found I booted to a blank screen after compiling LFS with the 3.13.13 kernel so I reverted to my LFS/BLFS 3.10.10 kernel. I did post the problem to LFS support Blank screen when booting with 3.13.3 kernel. - LFS 7.5 but didn't get a resolution and wasn't told I couldn't use an older kernel. It was a surprise to me I could revert to an older kernel. I specifically asked the question in my post. I will re-compile LFS with the 3.10.10 kernel if suggested. The kernel has nothing to do with this. I should also mention I've continued past my basic X installation and have no problems other than xterm. I can run X, connect to the internet, and run all programs I ran with BLFS 7.4 without incident. In the problematic xterm, what do you get if you run '. ~/.bashrc'. The dot by itself is important. In the problematic xterm, run '/bin/bash' to go into a subshell. Now try running 'source ~/.bashrc'. -- Bruce Your suggested ~/.bashrc then source ~/.bashrc steps fix the prompt. But I still can't source a script and subsequent xterm windows show the old prompt. I reviewed chapter 3 and The Bash Shell Startup Files several times before initially posting this problem. However, I ran diff's on the chapter 3 text and my files: /.bash_profile /.bash_logout /.bashrc /etc/bashrc /etc/profile.d/dircolors.sh /etc/profile.d/extrapaths.sh /etc/profile.d/readline.sh /etc/profile.d/umask.sh All but for /etc/bashrc came back with no differences. Etc/bashrc differed with PS1=\w which I earlier referenced. I knew the difference existed and, before posting, ran diff's on the above mentioned files on my BLFS 7.4 and 7.5 systems. My thinking was that if they worked with 7.4 they should probably work with 7.5. Regardless, I removed anything unique in my /etc/bashrc file and ran a diff between the documentation and my /etc/bashrc file with no difference. I still have the sh-4.2 prompt and can't source scripts. I mentioned the kernel difference as I'm fully aware this problem is almost certainly a mistake on my part. The kernel switch is the only funky thing I can think of between 7.4 and 7.5. I've successfully built BLFS many times and I'd hate to have someone help with the problem and then learn I had to switch kernels. Better safe than sorry. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/03/14 10:44, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Your suggested ~/.bashrc then source ~/.bashrc steps fix the prompt. But I still can't source a script and subsequent xterm windows show the old prompt. Edit four files: /etc/profile, /etc/bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bashrc In each file, add as the second line: echo the filename Then when xterm comes up, see what is being run. It should be: ~/.bashrc /etc/bashrc Note: I do this to ensure the files are being run and the sequence of the files. What happens if you do 'type source'? The result should be: source is a shell builtin -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:21:34AM -0500, rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: This is a stretch, but I should mention I compiled BLFS/X with an older kernel than I used in compiling LFS. I found I booted to a blank screen after compiling LFS with the 3.13.13 kernel so I reverted to my LFS/BLFS 3.10.10 kernel. I did post the problem to LFS support Blank screen when booting with 3.13.3 kernel. - LFS 7.5 but didn't get a resolution and wasn't told I couldn't use an older kernel. It was a surprise to me I could revert to an older kernel. I specifically asked the question in my post. I will re-compile LFS with the 3.10.10 kernel if suggested. I thought you did get a reply to that point, but it looks as if I'm confusing it with a different thread and perhaps that was on lfs-support. Short answer : as long as the kernel version is at least what you used for --enable-kernel= when compiling glibc everything should continue to work. I say should because you have already discovered that things sometimes break with newer releases, and equally newer releases contain fixes for older versions. In awkward areas (I'm guessing you have an intel video controller), fixes for some machines can break other machines. By the same token, an up-to-date kernel release might have already fixed the problem. But getting a working term in X is obviously more important. I should also mention I've continued past my basic X installation and have no problems other than xterm. I can run X, connect to the internet, and run all programs I ran with BLFS 7.4 without incident. My evil twin suggests that you build a better terminal (urxvt), but that would be working around the problem even if it did work for you. And to be honest I'm not at all convinced it will help, and it would definitely need to be configured [ in .XResources or wherever, and ensure that gets pulled in with xrdb -merge /path/to/resources] so there would be more things which could go wrong. Apart from what Bruce has suggested, compare _all_ the bash files in your 7.5 and 7.4 builds. Is /home shared by the two builds ? If it isn't, also compare the bash files for your regular user account. ĸen -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, dieses Mal als Farce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On 04/03/14 15:19, Bruce Dubbs wrote: rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/03/14 10:44, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Your suggested ~/.bashrc then source ~/.bashrc steps fix the prompt. But I still can't source a script and subsequent xterm windows show the old prompt. Edit four files: /etc/profile, /etc/bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bashrc In each file, add as the second line: echo the filename Then when xterm comes up, see what is being run. It should be: ~/.bashrc /etc/bashrc Note: I do this to ensure the files are being run and the sequence of the files. What happens if you do 'type source'? The result should be: source is a shell builtin -- Bruce I echoed the file names as you suggested and prior to invoking X the order is: /etc/profile .bash_profile .bashrc /etc/bashrc However, I saw nothing when starting X. So I redirected the output to a file. Prior to starting X I see the above. I then nuked the output file and started X but nothing wrote to the file. I attempted the same with BLFS 7.4 and my output after starting X is: .bashrc /etc/bashrc Yes, 'type source' produces source is a shell builtin from my BLFS 7.5 command prompt and xterm window. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: I echoed the file names as you suggested and prior to invoking X the order is: /etc/profile .bash_profile .bashrc /etc/bashrc That is correct. However, I saw nothing when starting X. That's wrong. So I redirected the output to a file. Prior to starting X I see the above. I then nuked the output file and started X but nothing wrote to the file. I attempted the same with BLFS 7.4 and my output after starting X is: .bashrc /etc/bashrc That's what you should see in 7.5 also. Yes, 'type source' produces source is a shell builtin from my BLFS 7.5 command prompt and xterm window. OK. I don't recall if you are using ?dm or using startx. I assume right now it's startx. What are the contents of ~/.xinitrc. This is starting to point to a possible xterm issue. If you are not doing so right now, please use twm for testing. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 4:53:31 PM rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/03/14 16:14, Ken Moffat wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 09:21:34AM -0500, rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: This is a stretch, but I should mention I compiled BLFS/X with an older kernel than I used in compiling LFS. I found I booted to a blank screen after compiling LFS with the 3.13.13 kernel so I reverted to my LFS/BLFS 3.10.10 kernel. I did post the problem to LFS support Blank screen when booting with 3.13.3 kernel. - LFS 7.5 but didn't get a resolution and wasn't told I couldn't use an older kernel. It was a surprise to me I could revert to an older kernel. I specifically asked the question in my post. I will re-compile LFS with the 3.10.10 kernel if suggested. I thought you did get a reply to that point, but it looks as if I'm confusing it with a different thread and perhaps that was on lfs-support. Short answer : as long as the kernel version is at least what you used for --enable-kernel= when compiling glibc everything should continue to work. I say should because you have already discovered that things sometimes break with newer releases, and equally newer releases contain fixes for older versions. In awkward areas (I'm guessing you have an intel video controller), fixes for some machines can break other machines. By the same token, an up-to-date kernel release might have already fixed the problem. But getting a working term in X is obviously more important. I should also mention I've continued past my basic X installation and have no problems other than xterm. I can run X, connect to the internet, and run all programs I ran with BLFS 7.4 without incident. My evil twin suggests that you build a better terminal (urxvt), but that would be working around the problem even if it did work for you. And to be honest I'm not at all convinced it will help, and it would definitely need to be configured [ in .XResources or wherever, and ensure that gets pulled in with xrdb -merge /path/to/resources] so there would be more things which could go wrong. Apart from what Bruce has suggested, compare _all_ the bash files in your 7.5 and 7.4 builds. Is /home shared by the two builds ? If it isn't, also compare the bash files for your regular user account. ĸen Yes, I did get some good replies to my blank screen post. I meant that I didn't see a solution to the problem and everyone seemed OK with my using an older kernel. I should have mentioned that prior to posting my xterm problem I did compile rxvt with the same thought. Unfortunately, I still had a wrong prompt and couldn't source scripts. I have read through these threads, and am wondering if you actually are using bash as your default shell? In the shell's section there is DASH which has the prompt of sh-4.2# when I typed sh from my root terminal. This is the 7.5 version of the BLFS book on shell's I am talking about. In that section you have the option of replacing root's shell with dash by a symlink. I would try recompiling bash from source and see if that fixes the issue that your having. I would even go so far as to delete the .bash files from your system (after backing them up) just in-case there is some weirdness there. Regards, Christopher. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On 04/01/14 19:36, Ken Moffat wrote: On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 06:15:05PM -0500,rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: My BLFS 7.5 xterm displays a “sh-4.2#” prompt. My xterm prompt in BLFS 7.4 is “/ ” and “PS1=”\w “ is in my BLFS 7.5 /etc/bashrc file. In addition to the wrong prompt, I can't “source” scripts, and receive “file not found.” LFS 7.5 seems to be working fine, with the correct prompt and without “file not found” or sourcing problems. I've apparently done something wrong with X. I've re-read the documentation but am flat-out not seeing my error. What should I check? Since you are running as root (the '#' in the prompt), check root's .bashrc (if it exists) and .bash_login. In particular, check anything setting the path. Also, if bash is invoked as 'sh' the behaviour is apparently different. See the source filename explanation in 'man bash'. Alternatively, perhaps ~/ (i.e. /root) is not writable by root. Or even not readable. I was going to suggest you checked that '/' and '/tmp' were not full [ that would be 100% full for root, including any reserved space ], but I guess that if X starts then it has managed to write in /tmp. ĸen $PATH and .bashrc are identical on my BLFS 7.4 and 7.5 partitions. I see no .bash_login, but .bash_profile is identical between my partitions. I can copy files between my BLFS 7.5 and other partitions. That includes / and I can copy files between / and other directories on my BLFS 7.5 partition. I should mention I can't even bring up an xterm window if I start X as a non-root user. The window flashes briefly and disappears. Also, while using a root user xterm, I can't source SomeScript.sh but can ./SomeScript.sh. I'm really at a loss as to how I messed this up. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/01/14 19:36, Ken Moffat wrote: On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 06:15:05PM -0500,rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: My BLFS 7.5 xterm displays a “sh-4.2#” prompt. My xterm prompt in BLFS 7.4 is “/ ” and “PS1=”\w “ is in my BLFS 7.5 /etc/bashrc file. In addition to the wrong prompt, I can't “source” scripts, and receive “file not found.” LFS 7.5 seems to be working fine, with the correct prompt and without “file not found” or sourcing problems. I've apparently done something wrong with X. I've re-read the documentation but am flat-out not seeing my error. What should I check? Since you are running as root (the '#' in the prompt), check root's .bashrc (if it exists) and .bash_login. In particular, check anything setting the path. Also, if bash is invoked as 'sh' the behaviour is apparently different. See the source filename explanation in 'man bash'. Alternatively, perhaps ~/ (i.e. /root) is not writable by root. Or even not readable. I was going to suggest you checked that '/' and '/tmp' were not full [ that would be 100% full for root, including any reserved space ], but I guess that if X starts then it has managed to write in /tmp. ĸen $PATH and .bashrc are identical on my BLFS 7.4 and 7.5 partitions. I see no .bash_login, but .bash_profile is identical between my partitions. I can copy files between my BLFS 7.5 and other partitions. That includes / and I can copy files between / and other directories on my BLFS 7.5 partition. I should mention I can't even bring up an xterm window if I start X as a non-root user. The window flashes briefly and disappears. Also, while using a root user xterm, I can't source SomeScript.sh but can ./SomeScript.sh. I'm really at a loss as to how I messed this up. What is your shell in /etc/passwd. Is it /bin/sh or /bin/bash? What is the output of bash --version? The startup sequence is /etc/profile followed by the *first* of ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile. This is modified by instructions in the initialization files. In the case of BLFS, profile runs everyting in /etc/profile.d/*.sh The book's ~/.bash_profile runs ~/.bashrc which in turn runs /etc/bashrc. /etc/bashrc sets PS1 If you are running an xterm, it is not a login shell and only ~/.bashrc (and thus /etc/bashrc) are run. To ensure the correct files are being run, you can insert an echo statement into each script. For example echo '~/.bashrc' in that file. You can also see if you get different behavior by running 'bash --login' from a command prompt. -- Bruce -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 11:37:40AM -0500, rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: I should mention I can't even bring up an xterm window if I start X as a non-root user. The window flashes briefly and disappears. Also, while using a root user xterm, I can't source SomeScript.sh but can ./SomeScript.sh. I'm starting to think that you have more than one problem. They might be related, but you probably need to tackle one at a time. I think it might be easier to start with the xterm-for-regular-user problem. I guess you are trying to do this from your .xinitrc file, so I would _log_ the output of startx (both stdout and stderr), and end X as soon as you can after the term window has disappeared. Then look at the stdout/stderr messages and also the log from X itself, and perhaps the system log too [ segfaults often show up in that ]. You might also try the same thing on the non-broken system, to compare the messages - X generally reports a lot of things, some of which can look scary [ particularly when shutting X down ] but what you want to examine are the new/different messages from the broken system. I'm really at a loss as to how I messed this up. That's the joy of this pasttime - we each get to make our own unique mistakes, and then try to reassemble something from the broken pieces. With luck, we learn from whatever we do wrong and also remember enough to either not make the same mistake again, or at least to recognise it when we do. Generally, understanding what we have done wrong only comes when we have understood the resulting problem. And sometimes the explanation for what really triggered it may only become apparent _much_ later, at least in my own experience. For the moment, concentrate on understanding the problem(s), and then on resolving it/them. Unfortunately, you have to do most of the legwork yourself. Sometimes, 'strace' is sort-of-useful in finding where a program is getting an unexpected result [ albeit with voluminous output ], but I think you first need to pin down where a problem is happening. At the moment, all I can do is try to encourage you and wish you good luck. ĸen -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, dieses Mal als Farce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On 04/02/14 12:02, Bruce Dubbs wrote: rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/01/14 19:36, Ken Moffat wrote: On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 06:15:05PM -0500,rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: My BLFS 7.5 xterm displays a “sh-4.2#” prompt. My xterm prompt in BLFS 7.4 is “/ ” and “PS1=”\w “ is in my BLFS 7.5 /etc/bashrc file. In addition to the wrong prompt, I can't “source” scripts, and receive “file not found.” LFS 7.5 seems to be working fine, with the correct prompt and without “file not found” or sourcing problems. I've apparently done something wrong with X. I've re-read the documentation but am flat-out not seeing my error. What should I check? Since you are running as root (the '#' in the prompt), check root's .bashrc (if it exists) and .bash_login. In particular, check anything setting the path. Also, if bash is invoked as 'sh' the behaviour is apparently different. See the source filename explanation in 'man bash'. Alternatively, perhaps ~/ (i.e. /root) is not writable by root. Or even not readable. I was going to suggest you checked that '/' and '/tmp' were not full [ that would be 100% full for root, including any reserved space ], but I guess that if X starts then it has managed to write in /tmp. ĸen $PATH and .bashrc are identical on my BLFS 7.4 and 7.5 partitions. I see no .bash_login, but .bash_profile is identical between my partitions. I can copy files between my BLFS 7.5 and other partitions. That includes / and I can copy files between / and other directories on my BLFS 7.5 partition. I should mention I can't even bring up an xterm window if I start X as a non-root user. The window flashes briefly and disappears. Also, while using a root user xterm, I can't source SomeScript.sh but can ./SomeScript.sh. I'm really at a loss as to how I messed this up. What is your shell in /etc/passwd. Is it /bin/sh or /bin/bash? What is the output of bash --version? The startup sequence is /etc/profile followed by the *first* of ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile. This is modified by instructions in the initialization files. In the case of BLFS, profile runs everyting in /etc/profile.d/*.sh The book's ~/.bash_profile runs ~/.bashrc which in turn runs /etc/bashrc. /etc/bashrc sets PS1 If you are running an xterm, it is not a login shell and only ~/.bashrc (and thus /etc/bashrc) are run. To ensure the correct files are being run, you can insert an echo statement into each script. For example echo '~/.bashrc' in that file. You can also see if you get different behavior by running 'bash --login' from a command prompt. -- Bruce -- Bruce My shell is /bin/bash. My bash version is 4.2.45(1) in my 7.4 and 7.5 BLFS. Should they be the same? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: My shell is /bin/bash. My bash version is 4.2.45(1) in my 7.4 and 7.5 BLFS. Should they be the same? I don't recall, but bash-4.2.45 is fine. You are slightly ambiguous here. bash behavior changes if it is called as sh. I assume you mean it's being called as bash. What's the output of 'echo $PS1'? How about 'ldd /bin/bash'? Is libreadline.so.6 there? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-support] Wrong prompt and “file not found” with xterm – BLFS 7.5
On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 06:15:05PM -0500, rhubarbpie...@gmail.com wrote: My BLFS 7.5 xterm displays a “sh-4.2#” prompt. My xterm prompt in BLFS 7.4 is “/ ” and “PS1=”\w “ is in my BLFS 7.5 /etc/bashrc file. In addition to the wrong prompt, I can't “source” scripts, and receive “file not found.” LFS 7.5 seems to be working fine, with the correct prompt and without “file not found” or sourcing problems. I've apparently done something wrong with X. I've re-read the documentation but am flat-out not seeing my error. What should I check? Since you are running as root (the '#' in the prompt), check root's .bashrc (if it exists) and .bash_login. In particular, check anything setting the path. Also, if bash is invoked as 'sh' the behaviour is apparently different. See the source filename explanation in 'man bash'. Alternatively, perhaps ~/ (i.e. /root) is not writable by root. Or even not readable. I was going to suggest you checked that '/' and '/tmp' were not full [ that would be 100% full for root, including any reserved space ], but I guess that if X starts then it has managed to write in /tmp. ĸen -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, dieses Mal als Farce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
