Re: How did people here learn GUIs

This has been extremely fascinating as many of the rest of you report things that are familiar to me. I am also retired now but for 25 years, I ran Oklahoma State University's domain name and dhcp servers as well as built a lot of automation for our network operations group. My

Re: How did people here learn GUIs

I guess I'm going to show my age here. I began my computing experience running a DEC PDP8 with a proprietary operating system (punched paper tape days). That was followed by several computerized phototypesetting machines made by Compugraphic, including one of the very first area composition

Re: How did people here learn GUIs

Excellent points, Martin. I often wish I'd learned vim or emacs rather than Word Perfect 5.2, and then 6.0. Both vim and emacs are still useful, and that knowledge would serve me today. You need to work in an old law office to still find wp skills useful. Same goes for bash and c. The list goes

Re: How did people here learn GUIs

Several editions of "exploring Unix" were published and that's the book the Navy used for my Unix class and that was all command line interface stuff. If you can get access to a bsd system like panix.com, the learn utility is installed and working and that teaches by computer assisted

Re: How did people here learn GUIs

John, you're correct about most people, but not about most computer professionals, especially not about computer programmers. My evidence is how Microsoft is now adding bash from Ubuntu to Windows 10. All the programmers I know who use Windows are seriously jazzed about this new upgrade to

Re: How did people here learn GUIs

I think as a general rule, Cheryl is quite correct. Support for the terminal in Voice Over, and in every gui screen reader I know is frankly subpar. We got to the point in DOS where the screen readers, especially asap and vocal-eyes, were powerful and able to change configurations on the fly to

Re: Questions about setting up a new computer

John: That's not bad, but I'd put a bit more into the effort for the sake of future proofing your new machine for the next dacade. More RAM would be smart, and it's not very expensive. So, if price is the issue, you might want to start with a single 8Gb stick on a board that allows you to add 3

Re: How did people here learn GUIs

When compuserve messed up its interface then went over to web interface, it lost a huge part of its customer base. I talked with a Compuserve employee after all of that happened and the dust had time to settle and they told me the corporation had made a huge mistake. My original computer

Re: How did people here learn GUIs

Oh wow Paul! Thanks for the 4DOS memories! That little thing was simply the best thing for DOS ever made . Believe it or not, I read somewhere that 4DOS may actually be open source now, and that it runs like a dream under FreeDOS. In any case, that was a fun little trip down memory lane, as it

Re: How did people here learn GUIs

Paul, Have you tried orgmode for an outliner yet? Also, have you tried cinnamon yet? If you haven't, org-mode is part of any current version of emacs and you get to its documentation by running info org. Cinnamon is a flavor of operating system offered by debian fedora and other

Re: How did people here learn GUIs

> "Martin" == Martin McCormick writes: Martin> The problem with learning GUI's for me was not the Martin> concept so much as knowing what keys to push to make it Martin> work. I actively avoided Windows since for most of my Martin> working life,