Well done. I'm optimistic for deployment everywhere, except CMTS's, the LTE
and HSPA+ access networks, and all corporate firewall and intranet gear.
The solution du jour is to leave bufferbloat in place, while using the real
fads: prioritization (diffserv once we have the fast lanes fully
dpr...@reed.com wrote
Fixing buffer bloat allows the edge- and enterprise- networks to be more
efficient,
whereas not fixing it lets the edge networks move users up to more and more
expensive plans due to frustration and to sell much more gear into
Enterprises
because they are easy marks
If you think fast lanes will actually increase performance for any traffic,
you are dreaming.
the people looking for fast lanes are't trying to get traffic through any
faster, they are looking to charge more for the traffic they are already
passing.
David Lang
On Thu, 15 May 2014,
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:46 PM, David Lang da...@lang.hm wrote:
If you think fast lanes will actually increase performance for any
traffic, you are dreaming.
I have a huge problem with the fast lane analogy. The bigger ISPs have
national backbones of their own that could be used to transport
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 6:01 PM, dpr...@reed.com wrote:
I don't think that at all. I suspect you know that. But if I confused you,
let me assure you that my view of the proper operating point of the Internet
as a whole is that the expected buffer queue on any switch anywhere in the
Internet
We are talking about different things then.
The fast lane I'm talking about is where ISPs want companies to pay them for
bandwidth (in addition to the companies paying their own ISP for bandwidth and
in addition to their users paying them for bandwidth)
As for your contention that an ideal
Both you and Dave Taft misunderstood my idea about standing queues not being
the right way to encode congestion in switches. I do not say there would be no
buffers for jitter. Nor do I call for admission control. I just suggest that
instead of deriving congestion from backlog measures
Well, if the link isn't congested, why do you need to do anything to the traffic
other than forward it? You have no way of knowing what paths the traffic is
going to follow once it hits the next router, so you don't know which streams
are independent of each other.
Now, if you are saying that
