Re: [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat in 2017

2016-11-26 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016, Aaron Wood wrote: and call it a day. And those BSPs are _ancient_. I wouldn't be surprised to see 2.6 still coming out on new models, let alone 4.0. Most seem to be on 3.2 and 3.4, but I've heard people say Broadcom now has BSP for 4.1. However, since basically all hi

Re: [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat in 2017

2016-11-26 Thread Aaron Wood
> 5) But I'm not hopeful that any of the COTS router vendors are going to > adopt these techniques, simply because they've been impervious to our > earlier entreaties. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try again - it'd be a > helluva competitive advantage to incorporate the 25-50 man years of intense

Re: [Bloat] COTS router with OpenWrt

2016-11-26 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 26 Nov, 2016, at 16:08, Rich Brown wrote: > > His "secret sauce" is an auto-update facility and improved setup software, > which includes a rate-detection step that operates continually to adjust the > fq_codel parameters to the actual line rate. You can take a look at > IQrouter.com, or

Re: [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat in 2017

2016-11-26 Thread Rich Brown
Dave Täht attempts to refocus the group, and asks: > Can I encourage folk to think big and out of the technical box? > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 7:32 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> What's left to do? >> >> What else can we do? >> >> What should we stop doing? >> >> What can we do better? Lots of g

[Bloat] COTS router with OpenWrt

2016-11-26 Thread Rich Brown
I have been exchanging a few emails with Jonathan Foulkes from evenroute.com. He tells me that his company is installing OpenWrt on a commercial, off the shelf (COTS) TP-Link router and selling them on commercially. His "secret sauce" is an auto-update facility and improved setup software, which