[Bloat] closing up my make-wifi-fast lab

All: It is with some regret that I am announcing the closing of my make-wifi-fast lab at the end of this month. Over the years we have relied on the donation of lab space from ISC.org, georgia tech, the LINCs, and the University of Karstadt and elsewhere - but my main base of operation has

Re: [Bloat] beating the drum for BQL

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 10:30 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 10:13 AM Pete Heist wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 23, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Pete Heist wrote: > > > > On Aug 23, 2018, at 2:49 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > > > > I had a chance to give a talk at broadcom recently, slides here: >

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

Dave Taht writes: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 2:01 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: >> >> Dave Taht writes: >> >> > One of the things not readily evident in trying to scale up, is the >> > cost of even the most basic routing table lookup. A lot of good work >> > in this area landed in linux 4.1

Re: [Bloat] beating the drum for BQL

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 10:13 AM Pete Heist wrote: > > > On Aug 23, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Pete Heist wrote: > > On Aug 23, 2018, at 2:49 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > > I had a chance to give a talk at broadcom recently, slides here: > > http://flent-fremont.bufferbloat.net/~d/broadcom_aug9.pdf > > >

Re: [Bloat] beating the drum for BQL

> On Aug 23, 2018, at 10:26 AM, Pete Heist wrote: > >> On Aug 23, 2018, at 2:49 AM, Dave Taht > > wrote: >> >> I had a chance to give a talk at broadcom recently, slides here: >> >> http://flent-fremont.bufferbloat.net/~d/broadcom_aug9.pdf >>

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 2:01 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > > Dave Taht writes: > > > One of the things not readily evident in trying to scale up, is the > > cost of even the most basic routing table lookup. A lot of good work > > in this area landed in linux 4.1 and 4.2 (see a couple posts

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

On 24/08/18 15:44, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Fri, 24 Aug 2018, Jan Ceuleers wrote: > >> On 24/08/18 13:46, Jan Ceuleers wrote: >>> On 24/08/18 10:06, Dave Taht wrote: Random curiosity: what do various SFP+ interfaces (notably gpon) eat? >>> >>> I have taken a look at a couple. I see

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > On Fri, 24 Aug 2018, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > >> Are there actually any 10GE embedded platforms one can buy? I've been >> thinking about how to upgrade my home network without putting x86 boxes >> everywhere... > >

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

On Fri, 24 Aug 2018, Jan Ceuleers wrote: On 24/08/18 13:46, Jan Ceuleers wrote: On 24/08/18 10:06, Dave Taht wrote: Random curiosity: what do various SFP+ interfaces (notably gpon) eat? I have taken a look at a couple. I see numbers in the range 1.7 - 2.2W for GPON ONTs. Just to be clear:

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

On 24/08/18 13:46, Jan Ceuleers wrote: > On 24/08/18 10:06, Dave Taht wrote: >> Random curiosity: what do various SFP+ interfaces (notably gpon) eat? > > I have taken a look at a couple. I see numbers in the range 1.7 - 2.2W > for GPON ONTs. Just to be clear: that's for GPON SFP ONTs.

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

On Fri, 24 Aug 2018, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: Are there actually any 10GE embedded platforms one can buy? I've been thinking about how to upgrade my home network without putting x86 boxes everywhere... https://www.solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/macchiatobin/ I know people

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

On Fri, 24 Aug 2018, Dave Taht wrote: My ar71xx/ath9 hw - like nanostations - was below 2w. wndr3800 don't remember, I think the the ethernet switch added quite a bit. But 8Ws? not even close to that. A modern LED lightbulb eats that and sheds quite a lot of light. My very simple and stupid

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: >> But now speeds are creeping up even more, we're now seeing 2.5GE and >> 10GE platforms, > Are there actually any 10GE embedded platforms one can buy? I've been > thinking about how to upgrade my home network without putting x86 boxes >

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > > > But now speeds are creeping up even more, we're now seeing 2.5GE and > 10GE > > platforms, > > Are there actually any 10GE embedded platforms one can buy? I've been > thinking about how to upgrade

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

On 24/08/18 10:06, Dave Taht wrote: > Random curiosity: what do various SFP+ interfaces (notably gpon) eat? I have taken a look at a couple. I see numbers in the range 1.7 - 2.2W for GPON ONTs. ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > But now speeds are creeping up even more, we're now seeing 2.5GE and 10GE > platforms, Are there actually any 10GE embedded platforms one can buy? I've been thinking about how to upgrade my home network without putting x86 boxes everywhere... -Toke

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

Dave Taht writes: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 12:00 AM Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >> >> On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> > On the marvell front... yes, they tend to produce hardware that runs too >> > hot. I too rather like the chipset, and it's become my default hw for >> > most things

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 12:00 AM Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, Dave Taht wrote: > > > On the marvell front... yes, they tend to produce hardware that runs too > > hot. I too rather like the chipset, and it's become my default hw for > > most things in the midrange. > > I

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, Dave Taht wrote: I should also point out that the kinds of routing latency numbers in those blog entries was on very high end intel hardware. It would be good to re-run those sort of tests on the armada and others for 1,10,100, 1000 routes. Clever complicated algorithms

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, Dave Taht wrote: On the marvell front... yes, they tend to produce hardware that runs too hot. I too rather like the chipset, and it's become my default hw for most things in the midrange. I checked my WRT1200AC and it idles at 8W. My similar Broadcom box idles at 10W,

Re: [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] beating the drum for BQL

On 24/08/18 01:35, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Sure, but my ISP charged 4 EUR per month for the DSL-router that adds > up to 12*2*4 = 96 EUR over the 2 years contract duration and to 12*5*4 = 240 > over my renting duration; assuming that my ISP does not need to make a profit > on this