Re: [Bloat] vyatta in AT 5G gear

2018-10-16 Thread Dave Taht
Jan Ceuleers writes: > On 16/10/2018 17:14, Dave Taht wrote: >> And what was so wrong with the "everything as a file" model?? > > On a single box - not a lot. > > On a 5G network, which might consist of 10^3 - 10^5 boxes you need > aggregation and abstraction layers. I was mostly just venting.

Re: [Bloat] vyatta in AT 5G gear

2018-10-16 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 08:14:36 -0700 Dave Taht wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 8:06 AM Stephen Hemminger > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:59:18 +0200 > > Stefan Alfredsson wrote: > > > > > On 2018-10-16 11:31, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, Dave Taht

Re: [Bloat] vyatta in AT 5G gear

2018-10-16 Thread Jan Ceuleers
On 16/10/2018 17:14, Dave Taht wrote: > And what was so wrong with the "everything as a file" model?? On a single box - not a lot. On a 5G network, which might consist of 10^3 - 10^5 boxes you need aggregation and abstraction layers. ___ Bloat mailing

Re: [Bloat] vyatta in AT 5G gear

2018-10-16 Thread Dave Taht
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 8:06 AM Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:59:18 +0200 > Stefan Alfredsson wrote: > > > On 2018-10-16 11:31, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, Dave Taht wrote: > > > > > >> Vyos (the open source fork of vyatta) was one of the first

Re: [Bloat] vyatta in AT 5G gear

2018-10-16 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:59:18 +0200 Stefan Alfredsson wrote: > On 2018-10-16 11:31, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, Dave Taht wrote: > > > >> Vyos (the open source fork of vyatta) was one of the first to add > >> fq_codel support... I wonder > >> > >>

Re: [Bloat] vyatta in AT 5G gear

2018-10-16 Thread Stefan Alfredsson
On 2018-10-16 11:31, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, Dave Taht wrote: Vyos (the open source fork of vyatta) was one of the first to add fq_codel support... I wonder http://linuxgizmos.com/att-releases-white-box-spec-for-its-linux-based-5g-routers/ Isn't Vyos just

Re: [Bloat] vyatta in AT 5G gear

2018-10-16 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, Dave Taht wrote: Vyos (the open source fork of vyatta) was one of the first to add fq_codel support... I wonder http://linuxgizmos.com/att-releases-white-box-spec-for-its-linux-based-5g-routers/ Isn't Vyos just running the Linux kernel for forwarding? So they