Re: [Bloat] Other CAKE territory (was: CAKE in openwrt high CPU)

2020-09-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 4 Sep, 2020, at 1:14 am, David Collier-Brown wrote: > > I'm wondering if edge servers with 1Gb NICs are inside the "CAKE stays > relevant" territory? Edge servers usually have strong enough CPUs and I/O - by which I mean anything from AMD K8 and Intel Core 2 onwards with PCIe attached

[Bloat] Other CAKE territory (was: CAKE in openwrt high CPU)

2020-09-03 Thread David Collier-Brown
On 2020-09-03 10:32 a.m., Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Bloat wrote Yeah, offloading of some sort is another option, but I consider that outside of the "CAKE stays relevant" territory, since that will most likely involve an entirely programmable packet scheduler. There was some discussion of

Re: [Bloat] CAKE in openwrt high CPU

2020-09-03 Thread Jonathan Morton
> On 3 Sep, 2020, at 5:32 pm, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Bloat > wrote: > > Yeah, offloading of some sort is another option, but I consider that > outside of the "CAKE stays relevant" territory, since that will most > likely involve an entirely programmable packet scheduler. Offload of *just*

Re: [Bloat] CAKE in openwrt high CPU

2020-09-03 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Bloat
On 3 September 2020 17:31:07 CEST, Luca Muscariello wrote: >On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 4:32 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen >wrote: >> >> Luca Muscariello writes: >> >> > On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 3:19 PM Mikael Abrahamsson via Bloat >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, 1 Sep 2020, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

Re: [Bloat] CAKE in openwrt high CPU

2020-09-03 Thread Luca Muscariello
On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 4:32 PM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > > Luca Muscariello writes: > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 3:19 PM Mikael Abrahamsson via Bloat > > wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, 1 Sep 2020, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > >> > >> > Yup, the number of cores is only going to go up, so for

Re: [Bloat] CAKE in openwrt high CPU

2020-09-03 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Bloat
Luca Muscariello writes: > On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 3:19 PM Mikael Abrahamsson via Bloat > wrote: >> >> On Tue, 1 Sep 2020, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: >> >> > Yup, the number of cores is only going to go up, so for CAKE to stay >> > relevant it'll need to be able to take advantage of this

Re: [Bloat] CAKE in openwrt high CPU

2020-09-03 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Ho Toke, > On Sep 3, 2020, at 15:29, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Bloat > wrote: > > Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > >> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: >> >>> And what about when you're running CAKE in 'unlimited' mode? >> >> I tried this: >> >> # tc qdisc add dev eth0 root

Re: [Bloat] CAKE in openwrt high CPU

2020-09-03 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Mikael, > On Sep 3, 2020, at 15:10, Mikael Abrahamsson via Bloat > wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Aug 2020, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > >> And what about when you're running CAKE in 'unlimited' mode? > > I tried this: > > # tc qdisc add dev eth0 root cake bandwidth 900mbit That

Re: [Bloat] CAKE in openwrt high CPU

2020-09-03 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Bloat
Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2020, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > >> And what about when you're running CAKE in 'unlimited' mode? > > I tried this: > > # tc qdisc add dev eth0 root cake bandwidth 900mbit So the difference from before is just the lack of inbound shaping, or?

Re: [Bloat] CAKE in openwrt high CPU

2020-09-03 Thread Toke Høiland-Jørgensen via Bloat
Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > On Tue, 1 Sep 2020, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > >> Yup, the number of cores is only going to go up, so for CAKE to stay >> relevant it'll need to be able to take advantage of this eventually :) > > https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h2plus/ is an interesting

Re: [Bloat] CAKE in openwrt high CPU

2020-09-03 Thread Luca Muscariello
On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 3:19 PM Mikael Abrahamsson via Bloat wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Sep 2020, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > > > Yup, the number of cores is only going to go up, so for CAKE to stay > > relevant it'll need to be able to take advantage of this eventually :) > >

Re: [Bloat] CAKE in openwrt high CPU

2020-09-03 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson via Bloat
On Tue, 1 Sep 2020, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: Yup, the number of cores is only going to go up, so for CAKE to stay relevant it'll need to be able to take advantage of this eventually :) https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h2plus/ is an interesting platform, it has a quad core machine

Re: [Bloat] CAKE in openwrt high CPU

2020-09-03 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson via Bloat
On Mon, 31 Aug 2020, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: And what about when you're running CAKE in 'unlimited' mode? I tried this: # tc qdisc add dev eth0 root cake bandwidth 900mbit This seems fine from a performance point of view (not that high sirq%, around 35%) and does seem to limit my