Re: [Bloat] Easiest/most effective way to test software against adverse networks?

2023-08-05 Thread Dave Taht via Bloat
Dear Stephen: Google gcc is a hybrid delay/loss webrtc protocol that is part of most browsers today, and quite a few SFUs. It has been around since 2012 or so. An RFC for it was started, here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-gcc-02 But as it grew to dominate the market,

Re: [Bloat] Easiest/most effective way to test software against adverse networks?

2023-08-05 Thread Stephen Hemminger via Bloat
On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 13:35:40 -0400 Sean DuBois via Bloat wrote: > I am working on improving Pion's Google Congestion Control algorithm > https://github.com/pion/interceptor/tree/master/pkg/gcc. As I start to use > it in more real world networks I find flaws. > > How are people testing software

Re: [Bloat] Easiest/most effective way to test software against adverse networks?

2023-08-05 Thread Dave Taht via Bloat
GREAT to hear from you sean! (I added you as "accept" to the bloat list, but did not subscribe you. You can subscribe if you want to stay on) I am delighted to see all the places pion is popping up now, most recently I hear it is in matrix´s stacked SFU implementation? That is a very interesting

[Bloat] Easiest/most effective way to test software against adverse networks?

2023-08-05 Thread Sean DuBois via Bloat
I am working on improving Pion's Google Congestion Control algorithm https://github.com/pion/interceptor/tree/master/pkg/gcc. As I start to use it in more real world networks I find flaws. How are people testing software today? Is 'Traffic Control' the best option?

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Instant Messaging Meets Video Conferencing: Studying the Performance of IM Video Calls

2023-08-05 Thread Rodney W. Grimes via Bloat
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 12:23?AM Rodney W. Grimes > wrote: > > > > > This paper does a really good job of measuring the impacts of tcp > > > cross traffic, including BBRv2, against the videoconferencing > > > subsystems in signal, telegram, and whatsapp. > > > > Did I miss something? The paper

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Instant Messaging Meets Video Conferencing: Studying the Performance of IM Video Calls

2023-08-05 Thread Rodney W. Grimes via Bloat
> This paper does a really good job of measuring the impacts of tcp > cross traffic, including BBRv2, against the videoconferencing > subsystems in signal, telegram, and whatsapp. Did I miss something? The paper only shows a dumb bell topology with instream traffic, I did not see any cross flow