[Bloat] Getting Google to index. was:Re: [Starlink] [LibreQoS] [Rpm] net neutrality back in the news

2023-09-29 Thread Rodney W. Grimes via Bloat
> I love that there are oh, 700+ people on these mailing lists, but we > have zero visibility due to google not indexing them, where hackernews > does. This is going to be an issue dominating the web (again, sadly) > for a few weeks at least, and it would really help to be doing it > there, rather

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Instant Messaging Meets Video Conferencing: Studying the Performance of IM Video Calls

2023-08-05 Thread Rodney W. Grimes via Bloat
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2023 at 12:23?AM Rodney W. Grimes > wrote: > > > > > This paper does a really good job of measuring the impacts of tcp > > > cross traffic, including BBRv2, against the videoconferencing > > > subsystems in signal, telegram, and whatsapp. &

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] Instant Messaging Meets Video Conferencing: Studying the Performance of IM Video Calls

2023-08-05 Thread Rodney W. Grimes via Bloat
> This paper does a really good job of measuring the impacts of tcp > cross traffic, including BBRv2, against the videoconferencing > subsystems in signal, telegram, and whatsapp. Did I miss something? The paper only shows a dumb bell topology with instream traffic, I did not see any cross flow

Re: [Bloat] [Starlink] [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] Due Aug 2: Internet Quality workshop CFP for the internet architecture board

2021-08-10 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> The distance matrix defines signal attenuations/loss between pairs. It's > straightforward to create a distance matrix that has hidden nodes because > all "signal loss" between pairs is defined. Let's say a 120dB attenuation > path will cause a node to be hidden as an example. > > A

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] BeyondBeyond Jain?s Fairness Index: Setting the Bar ForThe Deployment of Congestion Control Algorithms

2021-03-14 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> Bounding harm. > > https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rware/assets/pdf/ware-hotnets19.pdf I believe this was presented to IETF iccrg at the last meeting, and is what Pete is using to calculate the "harm" value used in the current L4S/SCE test data. > d...@taht.net CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] [Make-wifi-fast] D* tcp looks pretty good, on paper

2021-01-08 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> This is through one of the last remaining cerowrt boxes in the world, > running fq_codel. tcp-davis takes about a 20% single stream throughput > hit vs bbr. > > I note, that I don't care one whit about throughput anymore. I care > that nothing, NOTHING messes up my videoconference... IMHO it

Re: [Bloat] [tsvwg] my backlogged comments on the ECT(1) interim call

2020-04-29 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
Hello Luca, tsvwg'ers, I believe that there is some confusion around about how video conference streams, and video *streams* in general differ from other forms of traffic. I believe some of that confusion comes about not only becasue of the FEC nature that many use but also over the

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] tsvwg interim meeting sce & l4s thursday 10-12

2020-02-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> Rod: > > It looks like they also would like to move the SCE preso up front. You > cool with that? I've set my alarm. I agenda bashed early as that change has not happened in the offical posted agenda and we are >24 hours from meeting. I'll see what or how the respond, but yes, the guys are

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] tsvwg interim meeting sce & l4s thursday 10-12

2020-02-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> This is a quick reminder that we'll have a virtual interim meeting via > WebEx on Thursday. Details are at: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2020-tsvwg-01-tsvwg-01/ > > It's from 10:00 to 12:00 America/New_York. Correction, they updated the time to 9:00 to 11:00

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] sce materials from ietf

2019-12-02 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> there are a multitude of papers posted for the buffer sizing workshop > > http://buffer-workshop.stanford.edu/papers/paper23.pdf was interesting. Would be nice to get them to add ECN(sce) to the mix of there tests. > On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:08 PM Dave Taht wrote: > > > > there are no

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] sce materials from ietf

2019-12-02 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > there are no minutes posted. > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-tsvwg-sessa-81-some-congestion-experienced-00 > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-tcpm-some-congestion-experienced-in-tcp-00 > > The above 2 decks are

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] sce materials from ietf

2019-12-02 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> Hi Jonathan, > > > > On Nov 30, 2019, at 23:23, Jonathan Morton wrote: > > > >> On 1 Dec, 2019, at 12:17 am, Carsten Bormann wrote: > >> > >>> There are unfortunate problems with introducing new TCP options, in that > >>> some overzealous firewalls block traffic which uses them. This

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] sce materials from ietf

2019-12-02 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> there are no minutes posted. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-tsvwg-sessa-81-some-congestion-experienced-00 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-tcpm-some-congestion-experienced-in-tcp-00 The above 2 decks are identical. Jonathan

Re: [Bloat] [Ecn-sane] [iccrg] Fwd: [tcpPrague] Implementation and experimentation of TCP Prague/L4S hackaton at IETF104

2019-03-27 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 6:06 PM Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2019, Holland, Jake wrote: > > > > > Granted, it still remains to be seen whether SCE in practice can match > > > the results of L4S, and L4S was here first. But it seems to me L4S comes > > > with some problems