Re: [Bloat] RED 13 years later

2024-02-10 Thread Kathleen Nichols via Bloat
A big issue is that "average queue length" was and is a terrible indicator of congestion. But I think the first "bug" Van was referring to was the original RED "control law" - I asked him why he thought it would work as it really ends up looking like a step function which your first control

Re: [Bloat] RED 13 years later

2024-02-10 Thread Kenneth Porter via Bloat
I didn't know what RED was and had to look it up. For others new to the lingo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_early_detection ___ Bloat mailing list Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat

[Bloat] RED 13 years later

2024-02-09 Thread Dave Taht via Bloat
And I still have never seen anyone give me a packet capture of juniper or cisco´s red implementation. https://lkml.kernel.org/netdev/caa93jw7wal75pvrb-q+xgacpqtizz4ivw0z2w9e8vgsyufo...@mail.gmail.com/ -- 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E Dave