Re: [Bloat] mobile broadband buffer bloat

2013-11-02 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 1 Nov 2013, Aaron Wood wrote: I find the notion of LTE that's faster than DSL somewhat amazing, still. Yes, LTE is really fast when the operator has 20MHz to play with. The difference from DSL however is that the cell is shared, so it varies a lot more in speed compared to DSL (at le

Re: [Bloat] mobile broadband buffer bloat

2013-11-01 Thread Jonathan Morton
On 1 Nov, 2013, at 10:22 pm, Aaron Wood wrote: > I find the notion of LTE that's faster than DSL somewhat amazing, still. Here in Finland, even 3G can be faster than DSL, especially if the landline exchange isn't as close as it might be. - Jonathan Morton

Re: [Bloat] mobile broadband buffer bloat

2013-11-01 Thread Aaron Wood
I find the notion of LTE that's faster than DSL somewhat amazing, still. (jealous) -Aaron On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Thu, 31 Oct 2013, Dave Taht wrote: > > I'm really impressed you can get ~72Mbit down and ~4Mbit up. (closer to 8 >> up when you consider ac

Re: [Bloat] mobile broadband buffer bloat

2013-11-01 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013, Dave Taht wrote: I'm really impressed you can get ~72Mbit down and ~4Mbit up. (closer to 8 up when you consider acks) Note also the relationship between bandwidth and latency at T+22... http://www.induowireless.com/nu/gsm-3g-4g-frekvensband/ Basically the swedish operato

Re: [Bloat] mobile broadband buffer bloat

2013-10-31 Thread Dave Taht
oops that was telenor I was commenting on http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/telenor-4g.svg On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > Just did telia. I really want 4G as good as this!!! > > http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/telia-4g.svg > > So you multiply the black line x4 to get

Re: [Bloat] mobile broadband buffer bloat

2013-10-31 Thread Dave Taht
Just did telia. I really want 4G as good as this!!! http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/telia-4g.svg So you multiply the black line x4 to get a total for the down or up, then insert a fudge factor for the amount of acks that probably went into the down relative to the up and vice versa, and you

Re: [Bloat] mobile broadband buffer bloat

2013-10-31 Thread Dave Taht
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:27 AM, Stefan Alfredsson wrote: > On 10/31/13 03:32 , Dave Taht wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 03:04:23AM +0100, Stefan Alfredsson wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Stephen, the list, >>> >>> We're running a 3G/4G measurement site at Karlstad university, with >>> mobile broadband

Re: [Bloat] mobile broadband buffer bloat

2013-10-31 Thread Stefan Alfredsson
On 10/31/13 03:32 , Dave Taht wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 03:04:23AM +0100, Stefan Alfredsson wrote: Hi, Stephen, the list, We're running a 3G/4G measurement site at Karlstad university, with mobile broadband subscriptions from the four major telecom operators in Sweden. I was curious to see