All - Quick question: I have been trying to investigate the IP issues regarding publishing spectra - and my students and I have found little to tell us there is a problem. We even contacted the ACS and they said there was no issue.
Now, I am confused - since I *know* that their is an issue, but we could not find the right person to discuss this with. Does anyone here have a suggestion on where to look? Any help is greatly appreciated. Sanford On 6/14/07, Christoph Steinbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tobias Kind wrote: > Hi Christoph, > I did not argue about curation of the NMRShiftDB, I think the NMRShiftDB is > a great thing and I am happy that somebody started and developed it. I was aware of that but I just could not resist to make my (pointless) point :-) > I was also very happy that I did not comment on the accusations by > Wolfgang Robien, because a nice BlogWar was developing afterwards. > http://nmrpredict.orc.univie.ac.at/csearchlite/hallofshame.html > http://acdlabs.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/05/update_robien_o.html Same here - although I will finally have to summarize things and comment. > You could also argue; how could Wolfgang perform such a statistics > in the first place? Because he could freely download the data :-) > In this way he morphed into an open data spectral curator > in the second place, which was very interesting to watch. That's why I can't get that smile out of my face when I read the respective blog fight. I take the reports about errors very seriously, but not the ones about our model. That was exactly the moderately original point in our grant proposal for NMRShiftDB - can we transfer the ideas of open source development to communally developed databases. It did not work until Wolfgang jumped in :-) I will blog about this. > What could have happen in NMR research if Wolfgang Robien would > have opened his NMR database with 80,000 carbon NMR spectra and > structures in 1993? We will never know. Maybe we would now talk about > 2D NMR spectra prediction errors instead of talking about 1D NMR errors > like: Oh my algorithm is 0.19 ppm better than yours. > Maybe everybody would use comprehensive algorithms like SENECA or StrucEluc? > Such algorithms are innovative and exciting! And instead of 12 publications > which mention CSearch in the abstract; or 70 at all; there would be 700 > publications which made use of CSearch and Wolfgangs algorithms and > databases? Very well said. I have nothing to add here :-) Cheers, Chris -- PD Dr. Christoph Steinbeck ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lecturer in Chemoinformatics Univ. Tuebingen, WSI-RA, Sand 1, D-72076 Tuebingen, Germany Phone: (+49/0) 7071-29-78978 Fax: (+49/0) 7071-29-5091 What is man but that lofty spirit - that sense of enterprise. ... Kirk, "I, Mudd," stardate 4513.3.. _______________________________________________ Blue-obelisk mailing list Blue-obelisk@hardly.cubic.uni-koeln.de http://hardly.cubic.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/blue-obelisk
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