Re: [Blueobelisk-discuss] The Blue Obelisk is challenged: predicting solubility

2008-07-31 Thread Rajarshi Guha
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Egon Willighagen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Rajarshi Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>> http://www-jmg.ch.cam.ac.uk/data/solubility/ >>> >>> BTW, the file has 3D coordinates, and look at the first entr

Re: [Blueobelisk-discuss] The Blue Obelisk is challenged: predicting solubility

2008-07-31 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Rajarshi Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://www-jmg.ch.cam.ac.uk/data/solubility/ >> >> BTW, the file has 3D coordinates, and look at the first entry, the >> planar napthol: > > Hmm, where did they come from? They can't be CCDC structures (?). If not, > how w

Re: [Blueobelisk-discuss] The Blue Obelisk is challenged: predicting solubility

2008-07-31 Thread Rajarshi Guha
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Egon Willighagen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rajarshi Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> First need the appropriate structrues > > See: > > http://www-jmg.ch.cam.ac.uk/data/solubility/ > > BTW, the file

Re: [Blueobelisk-discuss] The Blue Obelisk is challenged: predicting solubility

2008-07-31 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rajarshi Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> First need the appropriate structrues > > See: > > http://www-jmg.ch.cam.ac.uk/data/solubility/ > > BTW, the file has 3D coordinates, and look

Re: [Blueobelisk-discuss] The Blue Obelisk is challenged: predicting solubility

2008-07-31 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Rajarshi Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First need the appropriate structrues See: http://www-jmg.ch.cam.ac.uk/data/solubility/ BTW, the file has 3D coordinates, and look at the first entry, the planar napthol: 1-Naphthol MOE2005 3D

Re: [Blueobelisk-discuss] The Blue Obelisk is challenged: predicting solubility

2008-07-31 Thread Rajarshi Guha
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 31, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Egon Willighagen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Rajarshi Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Reproducible is definitely a worthy model. But equally important is >> quality. > > Surely we aim at the most stati

Re: [Blueobelisk-discuss] The Blue Obelisk is challenged: predicting solubility

2008-07-31 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Rajarshi Guha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Reproducible is definitely a worthy model. But equally important is > quality. Surely we aim at the most statistically sound *and* most predictive model. But anyone can do that. > You're right that given the small trainin

Re: [Blueobelisk-discuss] The Blue Obelisk is challenged: predicting solubility

2008-07-31 Thread Rajarshi Guha
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Jul 31, 2008, at 3:38 AM, Egon Willighagen wrote: > Hi all, > > I think we have been challenged by the Unilever Cambridge Center for > Molecular Informatics, Dr Jonathan Goodman, Prof Robert Glen and Dr > Antonio Llinàs [0]. > > The challenge not j

Re: [Blueobelisk-discuss] The Blue Obelisk is challenged: predicting solubility

2008-07-31 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wendy Warr mentions on [chemweb] a five letter contestant code, and > ODOSOS does not fit, so how about BLUEO ? Oh, and please use 'blueo' as tag in any bookmarking, blogging, etc. Egon -- http://chem-bla-ics.bl

[Blueobelisk-discuss] The Blue Obelisk is challenged: predicting solubility

2008-07-31 Thread Egon Willighagen
Hi all, I think we have been challenged by the Unilever Cambridge Center for Molecular Informatics, Dr Jonathan Goodman, Prof Robert Glen and Dr Antonio Llinàs [0]. The challenge not just us, but any data modeler, by asking us to predict the solubility of 32 compounds, based on a computational mo