[uucdigest] Tuesday, January 18 2000 Volume 03 : Number 061 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Visit http://www.bubbaclub.com | www.bimmers.com - "serving enthusiasts on the 'net" | Visit http://www.bimmer.org - ultimate BMW bulletin boards! | Subscribe to the Zionsville Autosport Parts Digest: | http://www.zionsvilleautosport.com/majordomo.htm ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ In this BMW UUC Digest: [uuc] Whats the diff? Re: OH NO! not [uuc] Cool Blue !! RE: [uuc] Selling prices for E30 M3 Re: [uuc] Whats the diff? [uuc] E36 Ignition Coils [uuc] Re: <E30> ellipsoids [uuc] 6 series mods? [uuc] Roebling Road Lapping Day and Driver School [uuc] Xenon group purchase Re: [uuc] V1 Usage recommendations please. [uuc] Dyno Session Re: [uuc] Xenon group purchase Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #51 Re: [uuc] Xenon Light purchase? [uuc] <WOB> Mo' Money... Re: [uuc] <WOB> Mo' Money... Re: [uuc] Dyno Session ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:12:34 -0600 From: Morrie Bowie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Whats the diff? Having recently returned to the fold ( 3 2002's twenty years ago), I find myself driving the 88 318 I bought for a winter/daughter home from college car, more than my pumped up Toyota MR2 turbo. I think this ole boy needs an M car. If anyone can direct me to a site or explain the difference between M3, M5, and M6 without, and I know this is hard, waxing poetic, maybe I can make it to Gingerman in time for the first school. Morrie 318i ho hum MR2 Turbo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:34:39 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OH NO! not [uuc] Cool Blue !! > one right now) - next thing you know, blacked out windows, a BIG > friggin' wing on the back, 330x18x20 tires and some strange graphics > in sorta Japanese will pop up on your nice M3 plus the stereo will > suddenly take up 1/2 the HP just to power it.. Dude....that's *my* car! =) Well, if you consider 35% tinted windows, factory wing, and a nice a/d/s/ audio setup making my M3 a pimpmobile.. =) Seriously, those blue lights are stupid. I like how they mention a coating that will produce whiter light. Last I checked, only phosphour coatings in fluorescent bulbs can make a difference in spectrum. Coatings on halogen bulbs are just filters. They can't possibly add anything to the available light from the filament, ya know? What they are doing is filtering everything else other than the blue part of the spectrum...not good. Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:41:10 -0500 From: "Ken Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [uuc] Selling prices for E30 M3 Thanks for the info. Take care, Ken Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Weishaar Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Selling prices for E30 M3 I have the Feb 99 Roundel here on my desk, and the want ads show 1988 M3, 34k miles, a couple mods, in FL - $18,995 1989 M3, 41k miles, all stopck, in NY - $17,500 1989 M3, 67k miles, a couple mods, CA car in MI - $17,500 1989 M3, 26k miles, all orig, in AB - $24,000 I always look for these in the want ads, just to make sure they are out there when I hit the lottery. :) Michael 88 M3, 120k and running strong. Ken Ross wrote: > > What is the realistic selling price for an E30 M3 in mind condition with > 50K-60K miles? Do such cars exist? I am thinking of selling my boring E36 > 325 with automatic trans and getting a fun and sporty E30 M3. > > Take care, > > Ken Ross > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:36:51 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Whats the diff? E30 M3: no experience with this one. I like the looks of a nicely maintained red or black one, but don't like the interior. Some diehards call this the true M car and that the E36 ('95 - '99) isn't. I've heard that the E30 is a bit more edgy and not as refined as the E36. E36 M3: Nice small, agile car. Great looks that earned the whole E36 "design of the decade" award. Crisp handling, steering to die for, quick, and powerful. 240HP. Downside? No longer in production. E46 M3: Available sometime at the end of the year...I think. More refined...a bit heavier. 340HP Like the E30 enthusiasts looking at the E36, I don't like the E46 styling. YUK! It also has that power bulge in the hood. Yukko! E39 M5: 400HP V8 cruise missle. Some have said that driving one is like driving an M3 with oily feet. Heavier than the M3, of course, but definitely more refined. Personally, I don't like the looks of the E39. I love the previous generation 5 series save for the double round headlights. Well, these are all my opinions. Of course, if you threw me a E39 M5 my way, I might think differently, but I think there isn't an ugly line with the E36 M3. Chester Opening a whole can of worms! - --- Morrie Bowie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having recently returned to the fold ( 3 2002's twenty years ago), I > find myself driving the 88 318 I bought for a winter/daughter home from > college car, more than my pumped up Toyota MR2 turbo. I think this ole > boy needs an M car. If anyone can direct me to a site or explain the > difference between M3, M5, and M6 without, and I know this is hard, > waxing poetic, maybe I can make it to Gingerman in time for the first > school. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:43:58 -0500 From: "Henry Caldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] E36 Ignition Coils ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:45:45 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Re: <E30> ellipsoids Ed, That's what I did the first time...just break the plastic tabs off the unit that's being replaced. The heat works like a charm though... Don't you cook things when you run the 80W or 100W bulbs? I've used 100W bulbs before in other lights (big Cibie driving lights), and things have a tendency to overheat and deteriorate. They are nice while they last! (See http://lighting.mbz.org/faq/ ) What I have done to improve the output of the standard 55W 9006/HB4 low beams is to modify the 65W 9005/HB3 bulbs (the ones that go in the high beam units) by trimming a little of the plastic here and there so that they fit in the low beam (ellispsoid) units, with the assumption that all the affected components are capable of handling the relatively slight increase in wattage. The plastic has to be trimmed so that 1) the bulb fits in the lens/reflector housing, and 2) the plug fits into the bulb's socket. It's a 5 or 10 minute operation with a dremel tool. I've been running these for a year with no problems at all. The output is noticeably better. According to Stern's lighting site, the 65W units put out 1700 lumens vs. the 1000 for the 55W bulbs! One other difference, if I remember correctly, between the 9006/HB4 and the 9005/HB3 is that the 9006/HB4 has a shield (coating on the nose of the bulb itself) of sorts. My assumption is that the absence of this shield is what causes a noticeably intense area of light in the very center of the pattern when the 9005/HB3 is used in the ellipsoid units, i.e. they're brighter overall, but especially right in the center of the pattern. Bob '89 325i > > I just replaced the ellipsoids on my 89 325i, also added 80w and 100w > bulbs at the same time. I ended up breaking the plastic of the > headlight assembly away from the adjusting screws with pliers. The > adjusting screws will snap into the new headlights. If you have the > replacement headlights you can easily see what can be removed. If you > have not yet purchased the replacement bulbs email me, I can tell you > where to get a great price. - -- Robert Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:48:57 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] 6 series mods? I have an 82 633csi and am looking for performance upgrades that are well worth the money as well as some styling chages such as a front spoiler w/foglights as well as side skirts and a rear spoiler as well. If anyone has any info on these products let me know. Thanks...-kurt- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:18:00 -0500 From: mark becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Roebling Road Lapping Day and Driver School First Coast Chapter BMW CCA will be hosting a lapping day on Friday February 25,2000 and a driver school on Saturday and Sunday February 25,27 2000 at Roebling Road in Savannah, Ga. The lapping day is for instructors and advanced students who have been signed off. There are still openings for instructors and students. If you have previously instructed for us and have not received a mailing it is not because you are not invited back. We have online registration this year which can be found at www.firstcoastbmw.org ///Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:35:10 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] Xenon group purchase Hi all, Perhaps if I am not mistaken (I could very well be)Turner is selling the Pheonix Microlite kit.This same kit is $600 from them(310-364-5219 Bob is a great help) comes with a life time warranty.The reason I know this is because I have the same kit from them(phoenix Microlite).So I dont understand why Turner would sell this kit for so much more??But if I am wrong Phoenix Microlite sells a great Xenon kit $600.So one way or the other Happy Motoring!! Brian 95 M3 Euro HID'ed ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:05:31 EST From: "CLT SIG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] V1 Usage recommendations please. John F Stoj writes: I got a Valentine 1 for Christmas and I am trying to decipher its beeps and indicators. Basically, can anyone tell me when I should be worried about a cop and when I should chalk it up to security systems, etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Didn't it come with an owners manual? If not, was it still a little warm to the touch? ;) (Sorry, couldn't resist). Chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:06:39 -0500 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Dyno Session The BMW/Ferrari club dyno session is still on for this Sunday. I spoke with the guys from Dynapack and they are pulling one of their 800hp dynos out of Hendrick Motorsport on their way up from North Carolina on Friday. One of the company owners, a former Schnitzer or Alpina mechanic in Germany, will be present to make sure the equipment is working properly and will give some tips on tuning. I'm meeting with FNA's motorsport manager tomorrow morning and will remind him to come on Sunday. SD (PS- to the Ferrari folks....this dyno is capable of doing sequential gearbox cars...roller dynos cannot. The F1 models should not be a problem) ========================================= Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage 201-262-0412 / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.ultimategarage.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:11:28 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Xenon group purchase > Pheonix Microlite kit.This same kit is $600 from them(310-364-5219 Bob is a > great help) comes with a life time warranty.The reason I know this is because I think it's the same one judging from the pictures from Rob Hatrak's euro HID'ed car and the pictures on Turner's website. I think there are only two kits in existence. One made by Bellof and the other one made by Phillips. The Phillips one has that big fat power cable going to the lamp. The Bellof has two smaller gauge wires going to the lamp. FWIW, Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:19:47 -0500 From: "Jack Money" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re: [uucdigest] V3 #51 Edwin writes: <<He was making a play on your last name (surname) and your comment to send in a picture of the money. As in, 'Send in a picture of the "Money".>> Boy did I miss that one. Where am I? What are you doing in my computer? How did you get my email address? I don't know what you're talking about....you can't prove anything..... Thanks for the clarification. Regards, Jack Money ----> sometimes as bright as night. Motor City Chapter iX Registry '89iX ----> Sharked! E30 M3 WTB ----> http://skumwerks.net/e30m3.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://skumwerks.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:32:52 -0500 From: Chaz Yoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Xenon Light purchase? The Honda guys have put together a fairly nice site that makes arranging group deals easy and organized. It's sponsored by retailers, so the prices are good and you know it's not gonna flop out at the last minute. Their site doesn't seem to be at 100% right now, since adding a new buy is failing, but I think you can add group buys that aren't Honda/Acura. Maybe you can ask them to add a BMW option or someone could write their own version. The advantage of the site is that you can see exactly how it is progressing, from both the retailer's point of view and the purchasers'. Chaz On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 10:28:00PM -0800, James wrote: > What happened to all the group purchase deals? As much as I hate > some of the immature people at bimmer.org, they seem to pull a lot of > great group purchases. I think right now, they are running a group > purchase deal for Hamann PG2 18x8.5 rims for $310, which is an excellent > deal. - -- Chaz Yoon http://christabel.mit.edu/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:42:57 -0800 From: Jim Ochi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] <WOB> Mo' Money... At 09:19 PM 1/18/00 -0500, Jack Money wrote: > >Jack Money ----> sometimes as bright as night. Well, if you used blue bulbs, you wouldn't have this problem... :-) Jim "Just can't resist" Ochi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:50:41 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] <WOB> Mo' Money... I have blue bulbs in my M3 and I bet I have the best story in the country on how I got 'em. Right Marco? And I'm too cheap to take them out. Of course I only drive the car in the daytime. Jim Jim Ochi wrote: > > At 09:19 PM 1/18/00 -0500, Jack Money wrote: > > > >Jack Money ----> sometimes as bright as night. > > Well, if you used blue bulbs, you wouldn't have this problem... > > :-) > > Jim "Just can't resist" Ochi > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:50:13 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Dyno Session If you are in the NJ area, I would check this out. I had the opportunity to see the Dynopack dynos in action at the Sandlapper d-school at CMP this fall. Very impressive piece of equipment and a phenomenally nice guy as the rep. He dyno'd approx 30 cars (one run only) over the course of the weekend. I don't know much about Dynos, but this setup seems to not have some of the same "issues" as the other dynos out there. John Steve D said: >The BMW/Ferrari club dyno session is still on for this Sunday. I spoke >with the guys from Dynapack and they are pulling one of their 800hp dynos >out of Hendrick Motorsport on their way up from North Carolina on Friday. >One of the company owners, a former Schnitzer or Alpina mechanic in >Germany, will be present to make sure the equipment is working properly and >will give some tips on tuning. I'm meeting with FNA's motorsport manager >tomorrow morning and will remind him to come on Sunday. SD (PS- to the >Ferrari folks....this dyno is capable of doing sequential gearbox >cars...roller dynos cannot. The F1 models should not be a problem) ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #61 ************************* _________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Bonneville Motorwerks . http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com | Circle Tire Co. 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