Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-17 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi, only for background information I recommend to read: blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2015/01/27/the-document-foundation-announces-the-results-of-the-android-tender/ and e.g. the annual report 2013 of TDF, page 9/10 Regards, Andreas Am 17. Januar 2022 23:32:30 MEZ schrieb Cor Nouws :

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Paolo Vecchi wrote on 15/01/2022 20:56: > Maybe you missed the point here. > > Some of us actually worked hard to prepare the ground to help others > trying to act in a fair and balanced way but after months of work and > negotiations someone decided that solidarity wasn't a priority. Another

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-17 Thread Cor Nouws
Paolo Vecchi wrote on 15/01/2022 20:56: > Maybe you missed the point here. > > Some of us actually worked hard to prepare the ground to help others > trying to act in a fair and balanced way but after months of work and > negotiations someone decided that solidarity wasn't a priority. Another

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-17 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Simon, On 14/01/2022 18:14, Simon Phipps wrote: This has led to progress grinding to a halt through mistrust If TDF is to satisfy its mission this has to stop. The new Board has a huge opportunity and responsibility to put all this behind them and lead positively. It must shun

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-17 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Simon, On 17/01/2022 18:15, Simon Phipps wrote: I suggest being very cautious with making "strong rules" in a volunteer community. While superficially they seem good at the time, our experience at TDF has been that strong rules made under challenging condition turn out to be problematic

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-17 Thread Simon Phipps
Hi Marco! Thanks for contributing. On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 10:52 AM Marco Marinello wrote: > > regarding, as per subject of the thread, counterproposal(s) to the > "actization" of LibreOffice Online, were barely discussed. > My apologies for the delay Marco, I had meant to comment on your

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-17 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi all, On 17/01/2022 13:08, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Marco Marinello wrote: I hope source-only projects will not happen again. In fact, if you just count by the number of projects, almost all code that is hosted at TDF is source-only. There's a lot to discover and weigh here, and it's a

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-17 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Marco, Marco Marinello wrote: > I hope source-only projects will not happen again. > In fact, if you just count by the number of projects, almost all code that is hosted at TDF is source-only. There's a lot to discover and weigh here, and it's a challenge (in the wider context) that the

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-17 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Marco, thanks a lot for your engagement and your contributions to the discussion. On 17/01/2022 11:51, Marco Marinello wrote: Hi Paolo, hi all, Il 16/01/22 11:01, Paolo Vecchi ha scritto: IMHO what is being called "infighting" has been an excellent exercise of transparency and exchange of

Re: [board-discuss] Counterproposal to the "actization" of LibreOffice Online

2022-01-17 Thread Marco Marinello
Hi Paolo, hi all, Il 16/01/22 11:01, Paolo Vecchi ha scritto: > IMHO what is being called "infighting" has been an excellent exercise > of transparency and exchange of point of view. I agree, a lot of new (at least for non-board people) information came out from this thread, although the topics