[board-discuss] Status update developer hiring process

2022-06-12 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Dear community, we should now seek to finalize work on the in-house developer proposal. - we agree that we want to hire developers - there is now only very few areas where the merged proposal should be tweaked to reach broader consensus - we do want a single document to vote on in the end - we

[board-discuss] calming pause please

2022-06-12 Thread Caolán McNamara
I suggest a little calming pause for a day or two on this list, it has become somewhat fraught. It would be great to hold off on posting anything rash and give the part of the board here in Berlin a chance to get back home and catch up. -- Caolán McNamara, Member of the Board of Directors The

[board-discuss] Re: [Meta] Interaction with Contributors (was: Discussing in board-discuss)

2022-06-12 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi all, Am 12.06.22 um 12:42 schrieb Simon Phipps: (...) Andreas was one of the founding generation of TDF so has been involved in the project for a long time, yes. He contributed great work on  infrastructure and deserves credit for it. He was unhappy when TDF migrated from Plone and I

Re: [Meta] Discussing in board-discuss [ was: Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF]

2022-06-12 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Simon, On 12/06/2022 12:42, Simon Phipps wrote: Please note that I have (intentionally) refrained from responding to earlier messages. But no-one (including you) was addressing the repeated negative framing of Andreas' many e-mails so I offered a contribution from experience to balance

Re: [Meta] Discussing in board-discuss [ was: Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF]

2022-06-12 Thread Simon Phipps
Hi Emiliano, On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 11:03 AM Emiliano Vavassori < syntaxerror...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > Hi Simon, > > Il 12/06/22 11:17, Simon Phipps ha scritto: > > I am sorry you do not find this helpful, but being > > aware of the true history of the project (especially at a time when > >

Re: [Meta] Discussing in board-discuss [ was: Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF]

2022-06-12 Thread Paolo Vecchi
+1 Paolo On 12/06/2022 12:03, Emiliano Vavassori wrote: Hi Simon, Il 12/06/22 11:17, Simon Phipps ha scritto: They are to help newcomers like you become aware that the complaints being made are not in fact new or related to the current situation but date back to a dispute that is many years

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-06-12 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Simon, On 12/06/2022 11:17, Simon Phipps wrote: Hi Emilliano, On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 9:31 AM Emiliano Vavassori wrote: Hi Simon, Il 11/06/22 20:02, Simon Phipps ha scritto: > I will remind you > that you started this negative approach about how TDF is acting >

[Meta] Discussing in board-discuss [ was: Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF]

2022-06-12 Thread Emiliano Vavassori
Hi Simon, Il 12/06/22 11:17, Simon Phipps ha scritto: They are to help newcomers like you become aware that the complaints being made are not in fact new or related to the current situation but date back to a dispute that is many years old and still unresolved due to personal enmities. That

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-06-12 Thread Simon Phipps
Hi Emilliano, On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 9:31 AM Emiliano Vavassori < syntaxerror...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > Hi Simon, > > Il 11/06/22 20:02, Simon Phipps ha scritto: > > I will remind you > > that you started this negative approach about how TDF is acting > > illegally when you and I were on the

Re: [board-discuss] Merged proposal for in-house developers at TDF

2022-06-12 Thread Emiliano Vavassori
Hi Simon, Il 11/06/22 20:02, Simon Phipps ha scritto: I will remind you that you started this negative approach about how TDF is acting illegally when you and I were on the Board together last decade. I'm honestly struggling to see how your comments can be thought as positive. And how