Re: [board-discuss] [ANN] Results for the 2014 Membership Committee election

2014-10-01 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
I, David Emmerich Jourdain, elected deputy member of the Membership
Committee of The Document Foundation, hereby accept this position.

Signed: David Emmerich Jourdain

2014-09-30 6:27 GMT-03:00 Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org:

 Dear membership committee,

 following-up from the final election result announcement, I'll now
 have to file the new Membership Committee with the Berlin authorities.

 For that, I'd like to ask all of you to publicly state the acceptance
 of your election - easiest by replying to my announcement email, and
 make sure you copy board-discuss@documentfoundation.org, so that we
 have your email properly archived.

 A text like

 I, My Name, elected [deputy] member of the Membership Committee of
  The Document Foundation, hereby accept this position.

  Signed: My Name
 

 Let me further remind you that you need to elect a chairman out of the
 non-deputy members as the very first thing in your first meeting -
 minutes of that appreciated as soon as you have them, since I need it
 for my filing with Berlin as well.

 And lastly, the MC decision on changes to the TDF board of trustees
 for the 3rd quarter of 2014 are due tomorrow.

 Thanks a whole lot for your work, and welcome again (or back again),

 -- Thorsten




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Re: [board-discuss] inviting Brazilian community members to Freiburg

2013-08-26 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi,

+1 from my side either, for sure. ;-)

David


2013/8/26 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

 +1 from my side, of course

 Florian Effenberger wrote on 2013-08-26 17:20:

  Costs will approximately be 1.500 € per person, given the current flight
 rates and hotel estimations, so I would like, with some reserve, to ask
 for 4.000 € in total.


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[board-discuss] [tdf-core] My nomination as candidate

2012-08-11 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
I wish to nominate myself as candidate for the Membership Committee

Name: David Emmerich Jourdain
e-mail: jourd...@gmx.de and jourd...@documentfoundation.org

I don't represent any institution. It doesn't matter which institution
where I'm working (or I would be). My intention is not directly represent
an institution in particular on the MC, because I understand that already
exist specific places inside the TDF, for companies to be represented. I
want to work with this committee, to offer my knowledge in some languages
to facilitate the presentation of new candidates who wish to join the TDF.

I have been active speaker at free software events in Brazil and since 2001
I'm as lecturer at several universities in Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Peru
and Paraguay. Always showing how it's made free software, how could be (or
should be) developed research groups focused on free software and
presenting  why free software is so important for academic formation in
computing.

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Re: [board-discuss] membership application/language and supporters

2012-05-31 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi All,

2012/5/31 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

 Hi Norbert,

 Norbert Thiebaud wrote on 2012-05-30 17:37:


  Just to be clear: It is not my position that we should be excluding
 people who contribute to the success of LibreOffice and the foundation,
 just because they don't speak English.


 oh, no, don't get me wrong - didn't want to put words in your mouths. :-)
 Just summed things up, exaggerating a bit, to make my point clear.


  But, as far as communication with the MC, for membership purpose, I do
 not want to put the burden on the MC to find translator to be able to
 handle request in any languages.


 I see it similar - the main and primary language of the MC, for internal
 as well as external communication should be English, and it's not the MC's
 duty to find translators. Of course, looking at the current composition of
 the MC, we have members inside who speak German, Dutch and French at least,
 so if they would volunteer to act as gateway, that would be appreciated. Of
 course, I know you all are busy as many active TDF members, so getting in
 externals for that task is also worthwile.


If the MC need help to translation, I think I can help, 'cause I have
knowledge in some languages. I already had offered my help in another
situation and I offer again, if the MC wishes.

Best,

David


 I would suggest that the burden to find such proxy is on the applicant...
 and that is actually an exhibit of proper interaction with the community.


 Agreed.


  I think practically, we can do it similar to the statutes. The official
 form and rules are in English, but for convenience, we can provide
 localized versions, given we find volunteers to translate them. The
 binding variants, however, should solely be the English ones then (except
 for legal texts, but that's another topic I don't want to touch here...).


 Agreed, but without exception :-)


 :-)


 Florian

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Re: [board-discuss] New members

2012-01-10 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi,

2012/1/10 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org

 Le Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:36:06 +0100,
 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org a écrit :

  Hello,
 
  André Schnabel wrote on 2012-01-09 20:05:
   back from the end of the year vacations, the MC started to process
   membership applications.
 
  a very warm welcome also from my side - thanks for joining
  LibreOffice and TDF, looking forward to working with you!
 
  Florian
 

  1 :-)


+1

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Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee

2011-10-30 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi,

2011/10/30 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

 Hello,

 André Schnabel wrote on 2011-10-26 21:48:

  as we have discussed previously, the paragraphs about the membership
 committee in the current statutes draft differ in some points from what we
 have in the bylaws. I hope, I can provide a translation of the relevant
 paragraphs early next week. But I want to have some discussion on the
 matter already in the first BoD meeting.


 a short summary from the last call:

 - For the legal set-up of the foundation, we need the elected names. This
 would not happen before December 6th.

 - In case we have authority approval for the foundation set-up before,
 this would delay the set-up until the 6th. (NB: When we will have authority
 approval is hard to predict, but more on that soon on a blogpost.)

 - For the inital set-up of the foundation, the founder (German association
 of FrODeV) is free to name anyone for the MC. They will of course stick to
 the voting decision. As soon as the foundation is in place, however, we
 have to stick to the election rules set forth in our statues, and they
 foresee a 45 day advance notification period of the elections.

 - In a nutshell, this means: We either can decide to nominate the current
 MC as the first MC and have a gentlemen's agreement that they step back
 as soon as the foundation is in place, leading to new elections about 45
 days later on.


IMHO, I don't see why can we not adopt this option. The current MC proved
that was (and is) impartial and deeply focused on meritocracy, essential
factors for an MC.

For me, the current MC proved that's fully deserving of this gentlemen's
agreement.

I vote for this option.

Best,

David


 - Or we indeed wait until the current election is done and nominate those
 voted on for the first MC.

 Although it might mean a delay, I tend to go for the latter option. This
 is much cleaner, and as we don't know if we will have authority
 confirmation before the 6th, we're basically talking about a delay of 2-4
 weeks, so be it.

 Thoughts?


 Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board of Directors

2011-10-04 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi Olivier,

I recognize you as an important person for the propagation of LibreOffice,
specially in Brazil, for your performance inside and outside of TDF.

You never refused to perform you role as a member from TDF, neither to
promote LibreOffice in all possible instances.

You got my vote, dude! ;-)

Best,

David

2011/9/29 Jomar Silva homem...@gmail.com

 Excellent, Olivier !

 I truly believe that you are a key person in LO development and adoption in
 Brazil, and I support your candidacy.

 Best,

 Jomar

 -Original Message-
 From: Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org
 Sender: olivier.hallot@gmail.com
 Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:08:12
 To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org; 
 disc...@documentfoundation.org
 Reply-To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
 Subject: [steering-discuss] Candidacy for Board of Directors

  I thereby announce my candidacy for a Board of Directors seat at the
 Document Foundation

 My name is Olivier Hallot, I am a 53 old electronic engineer living in Rio
 de Janeiro, Brazil. I am a former researcher and executive of IBM and
 Oracle. I am involved with open source software since 2001, where I started
 working into the translation of OpenOffice.org for Brazilian Portuguese. I
 am a former member of the OpenOffice.org Community Council and founder of
 The Document Foundation, as well as a member of the Steering Committee.
 Today I am working as consultant in a large LibreOffice deployment project
 in a Brazilian enterprise and I am advising several LibreOffice projects
 and
 initiatives in Brazil.

 My Document Foundation resumé

 Since early 2010 I got involved into the design and birth of the Document
 Foundation and I became member of the Steering Committee since the
 beginning. During the last 12 month I have been participating into the
 decisions of the SC and I worked to allocate as much Brazilian resources as
 I could to TDF. I still hold the position of translator for Brazilian
 Portuguese (a market place well above one million users) and I have
 contributed into several bug reports and features lists necessary for large
 enterprise deployments. I also did some bug fixing directly into the code,
 less than I would like to, but time is short and the matter is complex. I
 have used my professional connections to leverage LibreOffice and TDF in
 many public companies and in government and I am actively pursuing the goal
 to increase the number of contributors to LO development.

 Why am I applying for the BoD?

 After one year of existence, the enormous amount of TDF members energy and
 sharp professionalism lead us to great achievements. We rock. The road
 ahead
 however seems to be another challenge for the Foundation: Secure the
 positions already obtained and move to address the needs of the multiple
 faces of the community, from individuals to enterprises, while
 understanding
 the marketplaces forces that will drive TDF ahead. Of great importance, it
 will be necessary to design and implement the correct business model for
 the
 Foundation sustainability and LibreOffice evolution. These are fields I am
 willing to contribute with my industry experience, connections and personal
 energy.

 I am available for further questions.

 Kind regards

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 The Document Foundation

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Re: [steering-discuss] Proposal: Optional local NGO donation links on download and extension pages

2011-09-26 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi,

2011/9/26 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org

 Hello Thorsten,

 2011/9/26 Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl

  Hi Thorsten, *,
 
  Thorsten Behrens wrote (22-09-11 10:28)
 
   [...]
 
  The generic english pages will not be affected by this proposal.
 
  A local, native-lang NGO, that is in good standing with TDF, and
  fulfills the following prerequisites
 
   * has at least three NGO members, that are accepted TDF members at
 the same time
   * is an non-profit organisation
   * has, in the past year, organised or participated in at least one
 local or native-lang event, that was promoting or helping
 LibreOffice
 
  can ask for having their donation details listed on the native lang
 
 
  Sounds good to me.
  In my experience, local/native language groups have a broad variety in
  membership/activities. And with the criteria mentioned, there is room for
  that variety.
 
 
   download and extension pages, below the generic TDF one. Multiple
  NGOs per native-lang category can apply, and are listed in order of
  application.
 
  Listed NGOs are reviewed after one year.
 
  Let's have this approved as a preliminary rule, and refine it during
  the LibreOffice conference.
 
 
  +1
 

 +1


+ 1.

Best,

David


 Best,
 Charles.

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Re: [steering-discuss] contracting a lawyer for the foundation's set-up process

2011-08-12 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
+1

David

2011/8/12 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org

 A lawyer is indispensable I think, and the fees sound reasonnable . +1

 Charles.
 Le 12 août 2011 17:34, Florian Effenberger 
 flo...@documentfoundation.org
 a écrit :
  Hello,
 
  as many of you know, we're right before filing the application for
  legally setting up the Foundation.
 
  For the process of filing, it is highly advisable to have a lawyer
  assisting us and acting as official point of contact. Not only will some
  legal topics come up, but also being represented by a lawyer greatly
  helps in being perceived as serious entity by the authorities.
 
  Among the lawyer's tasks there will be the communication with the
  authorities, acting on legal questions, and preparing the filing
  documents in a way they fit the legal requirements. Unfortunately,
  German law makes it very complicated for lawyers to act pro bono on
  these kinds of things (which is different to e.g. the US), so we plan to
  officially contract a lawyer to assist us.
 
  In order to have legal advice for the process, which might take a few
  weeks, I'd like to ask the steering committee to approve a sum of
  3.000,- € in total. This is the sum one of our preferred lawyers has
  mentioned to us, and given that several hours of work for professional
  services have to be invested, I consider that amount very well spent.
 
  Depending on the lawyer and the services used, hourly rates of about
  50-150 € are fairly normal in Germany, and I expect the process to take
  a few hours of time to be completed, especially given the speciality
  with the membership we have come up with.
 
  Thoughts welcome.
 
  Florian
 
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Re: [steering-discuss] Request for changes of Membership Committee

2011-07-13 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi André, hi all,

Am 11. Juli 2011 14:56 schrieb André Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net:

 Dear SC members,

 as today's MC meeting had to be postponed again we (Sophie and me) like to
 suggest following changes for the MC:

 1. approve all current deputies of the MC plus David Emmerich Jourdain (who
 volunteered as deputiy but has not yet been approved) as full MC members.
 (so the MC will have 6 members in total - curent deputies and David of
 courrse need to agree on this )


when I talked to André about helping the MC, I want to make clear that just
offer me 'cause I understand that my fluency in some languages ​​can help in
the process. If you may evaluate, you can talk with Olivier, with Jesus,
with Claudio and some others that could talk to me (in person or not) that I
usually was the interpreter for almost everyone from BrOffice, in the FOSS
events. Of course, switching between some languages ​​during three or four
days, almost makes you forget to speak your primary language, but this
doesn't happen in the MC.

If it's necessary to be a deputy or not, I really don't know. I appreciate
and accept the invitation of Andre, but I want to leave this list totally
free.

If I can participate in this job with the MC, not being a deputy or being a
deputy, for me is fine.

David


 2. approve that the MC should decide on applications in consensus with a
 needed qurom of 2/3rd (means currently 4 members).


 Reviewing membership applications is (imho) one of the key tasks for our
 community - so the current situation is quite unfortunate. Sophie and me
 agreed, that we should not take a decision if only two members are in a
 meeting.

 Thanks and regards,

 André

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Re: [steering-discuss] Request for changes of Membership Committee

2011-07-13 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi all,

2011/7/13 Claudio F Filho filh...@broffice.org

 Hi

 Em 13-07-2011 09:51, David Emmerich Jourdain escreveu:

  when I talked to André about helping the MC, I want to make clear that
 just offer me 'cause I understand that my fluency in some languages can help
 in the process. If you may evaluate, you can talk with Olivier, with
 Jesus, with Claudio and some others that could talk to me (in person or not)
 that I usually was the interpreter for almost everyone from BrOffice, in the
 FOSS events. Of course, switching between some languages during three or
 four days, almost makes you forget to speak your primary language, but
 this doesn't happen in the MC.


 In my view, David is a good translator, indeed.

 Concerning to the MC, I think that there must have *Web of Trust* and,
 here, we got problems in finding a connector for this WoT concerning to
 David. I think we need people without any problems inside that WoT.


So, Cláudio!! if you don't help at all and don't let anyone to help...


 Since the begining of TDF, he is using an untrue description in his profile
 at TDF's website [1]. I have warned core@ already, but this profile is
 still there.
 [1]http://www.**documentfoundation.org/**foundation/http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/


about what Cláudio told, I already responded in another tread that this
information was included by the marketing team (not by me) and I left the
team completely free to change as they choose.

If you returned to this theme, or you don't read this tread, or do you have
bad intentions.

Again, the marketing team can change as they think better. As said before, I
say now.

And thank you for your cooperation here, Cláudio. You have helped a lot.

David


 As he cited my name, this is my position about him.

 Best,
 Claudio

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Re: [steering-discuss] SC Call on Saturday

2011-06-21 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi Florian,

2011/6/21 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org

 Hi,

 I might not be able to join the SC Call on Saturday, as I am on the TDF
 admin weekend in Munich. Christoph, can you jump in for me?


I got a question about this calls, until now via skype.

The last time I talked with Olivier about this calls, he told me that Skype
is not always supporting us all in conversation. And even with the Talkyoo
helping, still happens any technical difficulties (here and there).

I would suggest that (maybe) be interesting to test the TeamSpeak.
We can configure a service on a TDF-server to receive the calls, and each
participant will have a login to use it in these calls.

It's just a suggestion, an idea.
My 2 euros, 'cause 2 cents is too little. ;-)

MfG.,

David


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Re: [steering-discuss] SC Call on Saturday

2011-06-21 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi Thorsten, hi all,

2011/6/21 Thorsten Behrens t...@documentfoundation.org

 David Emmerich Jourdain wrote:
  I would suggest that (maybe) be interesting to test the TeamSpeak.
  We can configure a service on a TDF-server to receive the calls, and each
  participant will have a login to use it in these calls.
 
 Hm, if we go for our own solution - I'd rather suggest Mumble
 (http://mumble.sourceforge.net/). That reportedly works very well
 for a number of people.


Maybe a better option, I think. I know mumble, but I have never used
intensively. So, I can't comment about performance.


 I gather TeamSpeak is not opensource?


No. TeamSpeak is not opensource, as our current solution.
I was only thinking to consider another tool, to guarantee quality to the
calls.

But, as you suggested, perhaps mumble is a better option.

MfG.,

David


 Cheers,

 -- Thorsten


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Re: [steering-discuss] Hello... and also lurking!

2011-06-05 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi Robert, Jim,

2011/6/5 Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com

 On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote:
 
  On Jun 4, 2011, at 3:02 PM, David Emmerich Jourdain wrote:
 
  Hi Jim,
 
  2011/6/4 Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com
 
  Hello!
 
  I have also just subscribed to both discuss@ and steering-discuss@ in
  hopes that if there are questions here regarding OOo, LOo, TDF and the
 ASF,
  I can respond. I'm also here to also ask that if you feel more
 comfortable
  emailing me directly, that is fine as well.

 I'm lurking too...
 ... but if you want a measured response, I'd like to point you in Jim's
 direction...

  Be sure that we are very honored with your presence here.
  I'm sure we'll do many good stuff together.
 
 
  Thanks, but honored is for sure too strong a word :)

 :-)


Jim, when I say honored, this is recognition of your voluntary participation
in our list. It shows that you see on TDF-list a honest space too for
dialogue and cooperation. Just as on the ASF-lists. Again, we're honored
with your presence here. ;-)


 I'm an Apache Member too but (unlike Jim) I can't get away without
 introduction[1][2][3][4]

 I would also like to announce I have an agenda: I'm a big fan of
 LibreOffice and think it capable of successfully disrupting the market.


Thank you so much for your words, Robert.
TDF is really trying to do the best for the community.


 I'd like to try to open some minds (and maybe change some attitudes) here
 with the aim of helping to accelerate this process.

 I've spent too long in the past arguing about FOSS ideology in the past and
 these days would rather be coding. I hope all we share a community
 orientation (though we may argue about the meaning of freedom). I will try
 to avoid being drawing into ideological arguments. Please help me to do :-)


We are aligned with this thought.


 I expect to jump in a little bit more actively with the hope of correcting
 misunderstandings early

 I speak for no one but myself


Me too.


 Would this all be okay with everyone?


I think so.


 FWIW I've never been paid to code FOSS and currently my life today revolves
 around recovering from a serious injury (before you ask, it's much improved
 allowing me to do stuff like this :-)


And Robert, it's very good your presence here as well. Welcome. ;-)

Best,

David


 Robert

 [1] http://robertburrelldonkin.name
 [2] http://www.ohloh.net/accounts/robertburrelldonkin
 [3] http://robertburrelldonkin.me.uk/
 [4] http://itstechupnorth.me.uk

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Re: [steering-discuss] Hello... and also lurking!

2011-06-04 Thread David Emmerich Jourdain
Hi Jim,

2011/6/4 Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com

 Hello!

 I have also just subscribed to both discuss@ and steering-discuss@ in
 hopes that if there are questions here regarding OOo, LOo, TDF and the ASF,
 I can respond. I'm also here to also ask that if you feel more comfortable
 emailing me directly, that is fine as well.


Be sure that we are very honored with your presence here.
I'm sure we'll do many good stuff together.

Welcome to TDF.

David


 Cheers!

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