Re: [steering-discuss] Re: Adoption and implementation of the Community Bylaws

2011-01-10 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi David, David Nelson wrote (10-01-11 00:25) Forming the legal entity, the Foundation will take time. But that has no connection with the implementation of the Community Bylaws. The existence of the Foundation is *not* necessary before implementing almost every clause of the Community Bylaws.

[steering-discuss] Re: Adoption and implementation of the Community Bylaws

2011-01-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Andreas, guys, :-) Thanks for your responses. I'd like to put some viewpoints that some of you guys don't seem to have thought of. Rant rant I would like to see an end to this mindset of some people regarding a three-tier community: the new members, the ex-OOo community members, and

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: Adoption and implementation of the Community Bylaws

2011-01-10 Thread Varun Mittal
Dear All, As far as I understand we are all on same page regarding out objectives and long term goals. In every team there are few aggressive, few defensive and few balanced out players. A team needs each of them equally because each of them is best at their task. I understand David's feelings

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: Adoption and implementation of the Community Bylaws

2011-01-10 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi, Am 11.01.2011 06:30, schrieb David Nelson: I feel it's time to say that OOo was the past, LibreOffice and TDF is our future, and everything started from zero with the TDF launch. Excuse me David, but IMO you are completely wrong. LibreOffice and TDF did not start from zero at all. Please

[steering-discuss] Re: Adoption and implementation of the Community Bylaws

2011-01-09 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) @Sophie: Me, too, I was a little saddened at your answers. a) I am not bringing up this issue because of any response to my proposal about the website management. I said at least a couple of times that the SC needs to take some kind of decision in order to ensure it gets managed properly

Re: [steering-discuss] Re: Adoption and implementation of the Community Bylaws

2011-01-09 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi David, *, Am Sonntag, 9. Januar 2011, 16:12:21 schrieb David Nelson: (...) I do *hope* I am wrong. I hope all of the above is true. For the moment, I have not seen the proof. ;-) Don't *tell* me I'm wrong, *show* me I'm wrong. ;-) I'm a a long time contributor to OOo and now of