Re: [board-discuss] fast ahead soon... Re: [VOTE] Approve in-house developers proposal v.3.1

2022-11-30 Thread sophi
Hi Cor, Last mail on my side Le 30/11/2022 à 15:24, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Sophie, sophi wrote on 30/11/2022 14:37: My reading of Sophie's mail:  >>> I was not in the board meeting, but what I read was to point at  >>> people and not to the background of the document. is that she read

[board-discuss] Re: Off-topic character assassinations - do we really need moderation again?

2022-11-30 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Daniel, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote: > Previous moderation, as you named, was not based on a board decision > but yours. > Of course it was a board decision. Please stop spreading falsehoods. Cheers, Thorsten -- Thorsten Behrens, Director, Member of the Board The Document Foundation,

[board-discuss] the importance of shepherding this list & TDF

2022-11-30 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, On 29/11/2022 23:38, Franklin Weng wrote: > Believe me or not. Let me try to provide a quick counter-balance in this thread. It seems to me extraordinary to criticize Thorsten like this for doing his job - in line with the best practices for communications as adopted by

Re: Off-topic character assassinations - do we really need moderation again? (was: [board-discuss] It's ENOUGH!: Continued Nuisance with private emails)

2022-11-30 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
Previous moderation, as you named, was not based on a board decision but yours. So, whenever someone says something you don't like the shut up process appears. And that's something the people who really care about LibreOffice as a project don't deserve. Sad to say this as people like Emiliano

Re: [board-discuss] fast ahead soon... Re: [VOTE] Approve in-house developers proposal v.3.1

2022-11-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Emiliano, * Although we agreed to discuss the below separately, I think it is good to give some counter-balance right now as well. Emiliano Vavassori wrote on 28/11/2022 22:55: Willfully and actively excluding *just one single* legally elected director without *any whatsoever valid

Re: [board-discuss] fast ahead soon... Re: [VOTE] Approve in-house developers proposal v.3.1

2022-11-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke wrote on 28/11/2022 17:19: if a community member points on the last board meeting minutes and tell you that it could not read any objective reasons (from you) why the inhouse-dev proposal 3.1 not fit the purpose, it is really inappropriate and impertinent to point in

Re: [board-discuss] fast ahead soon... Re: [VOTE] Approve in-house developers proposal v.3.1

2022-11-30 Thread sophi
Hi, Le 30/11/2022 à 14:20, Cor Nouws a écrit : Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke wrote on 28/11/2022 17:19: if a community member points on the last board meeting minutes and tell you that it could not read any objective reasons (from you) why the inhouse-dev proposal 3.1 not fit the purpose, it is

Re: [board-discuss] Re: Off-topic character assassinations - do we really need moderation again?

2022-11-30 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Thorsten, Daniel, hi all, Thorsten could you please explain in detail the invitation to the meeting on July, 8th? Who has been in the meeting, and by which medium and during which time frame? Did you document the meeting? Who signed that document? Was the document sent to All members of

Re: [board-discuss] Re: Off-topic character assassinations - do we really need moderation again?

2022-11-30 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi all, On 30/11/2022 11:39, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Hi Daniel, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote: Previous moderation, as you named, was not based on a board decision but yours. Of course it was a board decision. Please stop spreading falsehoods. Not sure if this will surprise anyone but I was

[board-discuss] Re: the importance of shepherding this list & TDF

2022-11-30 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
This is not about attack someone but to show that all this narrative you, Cor and Thorsten built during last term and they continue during this one is nothing more than smoke. El 30 de noviembre de 2022 7:55:39 a. m. GMT-03:00, Michael Meeks escribió: > >Hi there, > >On 29/11/2022 23:38,

Re: [board-discuss] Re: Off-topic character assassinations - do we really need moderation again?

2022-11-30 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Daniel, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote: > And that does not look like a board decision to me. > The vote was to document an earlier decision on Friday, July 8th, that happened via phone, messenger and chat. Mind that it was vacation time, and several directors had no immediate access to their

Re: [board-discuss] the importance of shepherding this list & TDF

2022-11-30 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Michael and all, On 30/11/2022 11:55, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi there, On 29/11/2022 23:38, Franklin Weng wrote: > Believe me or not. Let me try to provide a quick counter-balance in this thread. It seems to me extraordinary to criticize Thorsten like this for doing his job - I

Re: [board-discuss] fast ahead soon... Re: [VOTE] Approve in-house developers proposal v.3.1

2022-11-30 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Cor, hi all, Am 30.11.22 um 14:20 schrieb Cor Nouws: Hi Andreas, Andreas Mantke wrote on 28/11/2022 17:19: if a community member points on the last board meeting minutes and tell you that it could not read any objective reasons (from you) why the inhouse-dev proposal 3.1 not fit the

[board-discuss] Re: Off-topic character assassinations - do we really need moderation again?

2022-11-30 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
Please, I appreciate that you don't treat me as a stupid. A little search into the mailing list history shows that decision was put in place 'some time' after moderation was applied. https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00784.html Moderation was in place from 8

Re: [board-discuss] Re: Off-topic character assassinations - do we really need moderation again?

2022-11-30 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
I wonder if such moderation has anything to do with this??? https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00451.html El 30 de noviembre de 2022 7:54:26 p. m. GMT-03:00, Paolo Vecchi escribió: >Hi all, > >On 30/11/2022 11:39, Thorsten Behrens wrote: >> Hi Daniel, >>

Re: [board-discuss] fast ahead soon... Re: [VOTE] Approve in-house developers proposal v.3.1

2022-11-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Sophie, sophi wrote on 30/11/2022 14:37: My reading of Sophie's mail:  >>> I was not in the board meeting, but what I read was to point at  >>> people and not to the background of the document. is that she read things at another location. Thus I've mentioned the minutes where I do not