Re: [board-discuss] Preliminary Results for the 2018 Membership Committee election

[Andreas Mantke]

Hi Stephan, all,

Am 14.09.18 um 15:51 schrieb Stephan Bergmann:
> On 14/09/2018 15:31, Miklos Vajna wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:07:33PM +0200, Marina Latini
>>  wrote:
>>> The above preliminary results are in conflict with § 8 IV of our
>>> statutes (https://www.documentfoundation.org/statutes.pdf), with both
>>> Miklos and Jona having the same affiliation. The elected candidates and
>>> the board are currently discussing options to resolve this conflict,
>>> which will likely affect the final results. We will update the members
>>> and the general public on this soon.
>>
>> I talked to Jona and in case we're asked about what is our preference: I
>> propose me stepping down in favor of her (and me initially
>> mentoring/helping her in my place if wanted), i.e. I don't accept the
>> above
>> role.
>>
>> A concern is now that Stephan and me would finish work in the committee,
>> noone remains with stronger technical skills, when it comes to
>> recovering from odd situations with git, gerrit, etc. To cover that, I
>> plan to stick around (initially) so Jona (or another MC member) is
>> trained up and doing this -- again, if this kind of help is requested by
>> the new MC.
>
> Wherever the rule of "no two members of MC with same affiliation" was
> stated (can't find it either in the above-linked PDF nor in the HTML
> version at 
> now), does that extend to MC deputies, too?  If not, one solution to
> the "no technicians in the MC" issue could be that Miklos only steps
> down to deputy level.
>
the rule is, that only one third of the members of a TDF body had to
have the same affiliation (§ 8 IV S. 2 of the statutes): if there are
five members in a body, two of them would be more than one third.

The deputies of the MC are not elected members of the MC and thus the
one third rule is not valid for them (as long as they are deputies).
Once they replace a MC member (possible only after her/his retirement)
the rule applies to the then new member of the MC too.

If an elected member doesn't accept his role, she/he is completely out.
You could not step some positions back (to get deputy).

Cheers,
Andreas


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Re: [board-discuss] Preliminary Results for the 2018 Membership Committee election

[Stephan Bergmann]

On 14/09/2018 15:31, Miklos Vajna wrote:

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:07:33PM +0200, Marina Latini 
 wrote:

The above preliminary results are in conflict with § 8 IV of our
statutes (https://www.documentfoundation.org/statutes.pdf), with both
Miklos and Jona having the same affiliation. The elected candidates and
the board are currently discussing options to resolve this conflict,
which will likely affect the final results. We will update the members
and the general public on this soon.


I talked to Jona and in case we're asked about what is our preference: I
propose me stepping down in favor of her (and me initially
mentoring/helping her in my place if wanted), i.e. I don't accept the above
role.

A concern is now that Stephan and me would finish work in the committee,
noone remains with stronger technical skills, when it comes to
recovering from odd situations with git, gerrit, etc. To cover that, I
plan to stick around (initially) so Jona (or another MC member) is
trained up and doing this -- again, if this kind of help is requested by
the new MC.


Wherever the rule of "no two members of MC with same affiliation" was 
stated (can't find it either in the above-linked PDF nor in the HTML 
version at  
now), does that extend to MC deputies, too?  If not, one solution to the 
"no technicians in the MC" issue could be that Miklos only steps down to 
deputy level.


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Re: [board-discuss] Preliminary Results for the 2018 Membership Committee election

[Miklos Vajna]

Hi Marina,

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 11:07:33PM +0200, Marina Latini 
 wrote:
> The above preliminary results are in conflict with § 8 IV of our
> statutes (https://www.documentfoundation.org/statutes.pdf), with both
> Miklos and Jona having the same affiliation. The elected candidates and
> the board are currently discussing options to resolve this conflict,
> which will likely affect the final results. We will update the members
> and the general public on this soon.

I talked to Jona and in case we're asked about what is our preference: I
propose me stepping down in favor of her (and me initially
mentoring/helping her in my place if wanted), i.e. I don't accept the above
role.

A concern is now that Stephan and me would finish work in the committee,
noone remains with stronger technical skills, when it comes to
recovering from odd situations with git, gerrit, etc. To cover that, I
plan to stick around (initially) so Jona (or another MC member) is
trained up and doing this -- again, if this kind of help is requested by
the new MC.

Regards,

Miklos


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