Re: Firmware: Sustainability vs planned obsolescence

2021-04-14 Thread Loïc Minier
Hi! Sorry for the late reply, here's a draft the concepts from this thread and link them to sustainability levels: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cihVQPf377c2W5ElT4ouvVx6VpDTE6mrAIbakKCEW7Y/edit?usp=sharing (doc open for comments / suggestions from anyone, ping me if you need write access) B

Re: Firmware: Sustainability vs planned obsolescence

2021-04-12 Thread Loïc Minier
Hi François-Frédéric, Like you, I'm particularly keen to connect the dots between environmental sustainability and open source software. I love your levels, basically recognizing that if the firmware is not updatable or maintained anymore, or if it can't fulfill its function by running TAs, the w

Re: Firmware: Sustainability vs planned obsolescence

2021-04-09 Thread François Ozog
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 13:32, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote: > On 09.04.21 08:59, François Ozog wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 19:34, Heinrich Schuchardt > > wrote: > > > > On 4/8/21 10:46 AM, François Ozog wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 10:30, Loïc Mi

Re: Firmware: Sustainability vs planned obsolescence

2021-04-09 Thread Heinrich Schuchardt
On 09.04.21 08:59, François Ozog wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 19:34, Heinrich Schuchardt > wrote: > > On 4/8/21 10:46 AM, François Ozog wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 10:30, Loïc Minier > mailto:loic.min...@canonical.com>> wrote: > > > >> Hi F

Re: Firmware: Sustainability vs planned obsolescence

2021-04-09 Thread François Ozog
On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 19:34, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote: > On 4/8/21 10:46 AM, François Ozog wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 10:30, Loïc Minier > wrote: > > > >> Hi François-Frédéric, > >> > >> Like you, I'm particularly keen to connect the dots between > environmental > >> sustainability and op

Re: Firmware: Sustainability vs planned obsolescence

2021-04-08 Thread Heinrich Schuchardt
On 4/8/21 10:46 AM, François Ozog wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 10:30, Loïc Minier wrote: Hi François-Frédéric, Like you, I'm particularly keen to connect the dots between environmental sustainability and open source software. I love your levels, basically recognizing that if the firmware is

Re: Firmware: Sustainability vs planned obsolescence

2021-04-08 Thread François Ozog
On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 10:30, Loïc Minier wrote: > Hi François-Frédéric, > > Like you, I'm particularly keen to connect the dots between environmental > sustainability and open source software. > > I love your levels, basically recognizing that if the firmware is not > updatable or maintained anym